kagan 21-JUL-1995 IanRVanPraagh I probably wont be able to make the meeting though Ill try Thanks kagan 25-JUL-1995 IanRVanPraagh Though I missed the last choice meeting because of the Waco hearings Id love to be informed of future meetings Thanks much kagan 31-JUL-1995 IanRVanPraagh yes ill be there kagan 1-AUG-1995 IanRVanPraagh the answers still yes kagan 14-AUG-1995 IanRVanPraagh yes ill be there kagan 18-SEP-1995 IanRVanPraagh ok with me kagan 10-0CT-1995 BrianEBurke Please ignore the last message I sent you It was meant to go to Dennis Burker kagan 10-0CT-1995 BrianEBurke I hear you need a QA on cameras in the courtroom Please see the attached And feel free to call if you have any questions 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE 60CT1995 16440000 kagan 10-0CT-1995 1 kagan 18-0CT-1995 DennisBurke Youre absolutely right given the amendment to Subtitle A section 20101 that you highlighted the AG has no authority to condition grants on the existence of prisoner drugtesting programsPerhaps Congress realized how much freefloating authority the old version gave to the AG to condition grants kagan 00-00-0000 MelindaDHaskins,StephenCWarnath,BruceNReed I very much agree with the p2 point This morning OLC agreed to drop the sentence starting Our concern and to fix and shorten the parenthetical But the best thing would be for the paragraph to go entirely Again Im sure OLC will resist kagan 30-0CT-1995 MelindaDHaskins,BruceNReed,StephenCWarnath,KennethSApfel I agree with Bruce as to the HHS view on religion and the SSA view on penalties for fraud Apart from anything else these are very weak constitutional claims I also agree with Bruce as to insert A We took this out because it seemed so weak as to discredit other arguments I see no reason to put it back in Insert B seems quite repetitive of the two paragraphs on p 5 Is that insert supposed to replace those paragraphs If not its not necessary If so it seems too brief to me see my discussion with Steve and Bruce last week How about a compromise delete the first paragraph on p5 replace it with the first sentence of Insert B then in the same rather than a new pargaraph replace the first sentence of the second paragraph with the statement We doubt however that such an argument would succeed And then continue onwith the rest of that paragraph starting with First kagan 30-0CT-1995 StephenCWarnath,MelindaDHaskins,BruceNReed,KennethSApfel 1 On the length of the equal protection analysis I still think we should go with the compromise I proposed But I wouldnt be terribly upset if someone shortened that yet a little further 2 On the caste system point Steve has a good point Youll remember that I didnt defend this language I just explained it and warned that DOJmight well resist its removal As noted before Id be perfectly content een pleased to see this language go kagan 18-JAN-1996 DennisBurke No problem Ive had a discussion with Ed Jurith in which I told him I thought he was wrong He said he wants to get me some other materials among them a First Circuit case Give me a call when youre free tomorrow kagan 19-JAN-199613 PaulJWeinsteinJr The bottom line is that both OLC and I would feel perfectly comfortable defending the constitutionality of your franking proposal There are a couple of litigation risks and there may be ways to frame the proposal so as to minimize those risks Give me a call when you have time and well discuss kagan 19-JAN-1996 Lets say Monday at 1000 kagan 19-JAN-1996 DennisBurke Can we set up a time to discuss this scheduling issue I take it your event is taking place today will you be free afterwards Thanks kagan 24-JAN-199613 MichaelWaldman A really great job kagan 30-JAN-1996 DeborahLFine Monday at 10 sounds good to me kagan 31-JAN-1996 DeborahLFine Ill be there kagan 1-FEB-1996 Paul I got your memo many thanks Theres absoutely no reason why my name should be at the top of the memo so you should take it off Which doesnt mean I dont think this a good memo I do But you did the work so you should get the credit Otherwise I do think the recommendation section should be enhanced with some discussion of both politics and policy Thanks again and send me the next or final draft kagan 6-FEB-1996 PaulJweinsteinJr Until 2 and after 430 Thanks kagan 4-MAR-1996 DeborahLFine,JenniferLKlein Yes Lets say Thursday at 400 kagan 7-MAR-1996 JenniferLKlein,DeborahLFine Im really sorry about this but could we postpone our meeting until tomorrow kagan 18-MAR-199612 EllenSSeidman,JamesJJukes,JamesCMurr,JeffreyAWeinberg I agree with Ellen kagan 18-MAR-1996 EllenSSeidman Looks good I asked Jack whether there was anything left to be done He said no kagan 19-MAR-1996 OdettaSWalker Odetta Could you let Kathy know that I think she already assigned me 1 it sounds a lot like the stuff that Harriet Rabb has been talking about though if shewantstoreassignitsheshouldfeelfreeto ThanksElena kagan 25-MAR-1996 CN,WHALEN,KRISLOV,CN,WARNATH I vote for AVs kagan 28-MAR-1996 DeborahLFine,JeremyDBenami,JenniferLKlein,DorothyLKarayannis Late Tuesday is fine with me kagan 28-MAR-1996 DorothyLKarayannis,DeborahLFine,JenniferLKlein,JeremyDBenami after 200 kagan 28-MAR-1996 JeremyDBenami,JenniferLKlein,DeborahLFine,BetsyMyers,DorothyLKarayannis Anytime Wednesday after 1130 is fine with me kagan 1-APR-1996 DorothyLKarayannis anytime after 10 thanks kagan 2-APR-1996 EllenSSeidman could you send me a copy many thanks kagan 8-APR-1996 JenniferLKlein tomorrow at 300 my office kagan 9-APR-1996 JenniferLKlein Let me know when youve read the op eds Id like to talk with you about which should be included and also who should be invited kagan 10-APR-1996 DeborahLFine all of this is aok with me Who is the doctor kagan 17-APR-1996 StephenCWarnath whatever you think would be helpful would be great kagan 18-APR-1996 DeborahLFine many thanks kagan 24-APR-1996 StephenCwarnath Could you keep me informed of all englishonly goingson meetings etc Ive taken over the issue from Marvin Krislov Many thanks kagan 24-APR-1996 StephenCWarnath Also could you send me the set of Administration material referred to in Carols 419 memo Thanks kagan 24-APR-1996 PaulJWeinsteinJr we should have someone from the communications office there what about inviting Vicky Radd kagan 24-APR-1996 DeborahLFine The letter is OK kagan 8-MAY-1996 EllenSSeidman OK and how do I describe the McConnellHorowitz nofault bill in two simple sentences kagan 28-MAY-1996 JenniferLKlein Im forwarding Vickis response to my email asking about the proposed event on battered women 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE27MAY1996 11190000 kagan 28-MAY-1996 No in the absence of dramatic joint announcement other issues have taken priority It is still considered a good possibility just not as strong as other actions for June V 1 kagan 5-JUN-1996 DeborahLFine today or tomorrow latest Friday Is that OK kagan 5-JUN-1996 EllenSSeidman I havent forgotten Tomorrow methinks OK kagan 5-JUN-1996 DeborahLFine No recollection but Melannes probably better than Jack The meetings I set up with Jack to talk about this kept getting postponed so hes relatively unbriefed on the issue kagan 11-JUN-1996 DeborahLFine eeeks forgot Soon I promise kagan 31-JUL-1996 StephenCWarnath Looks good to me kagan 22-AUG-1996 JeremyDBenami,DianaMFortuna,JillPizzuto you bet kagan 22-AUG-1996 Jillpizzuto 4567594 phone 4561647 fax kagan 22-AUG-1996 CarolHRasco,JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed,DianaMFortuna I included them in them memo kagan 23-AUG-1996 JeremyDBenami,MichelleCrisciforRahmE,BarryToiv,CarolHRasco,DianaMFortuna One slight amendment As I understand it the bill authorizes not requires the AG to designate certain programs as ones for which aliens will continue to be eligible So in designating such programs thereby keeping them open to legal aliens the AG is doing something she is specifically authorized but not required to do kagan 2-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna,CarolHRasco,BarryWhite,RichardEGreen,JeremyDBenami Id very much like to be part of the analysis and presentation of the legal options on this question Let me know how you are intending to proceed kagan 2-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna,LyndellHogan,EmilyBromberg,JeremyDBenami I dont think they need to be told The womens groups have already contacted Betsy Myers with a proposed executive directive relating to the amendment Leon asked the counsels office on friday to look into the proposal Ill send it around kagan 25-AUG-1996 DennisBurke that if theres anything i can do for you on the crime initiatives you should let me know by the way the head of doj s criminal division tells me that i was right and kagan 26-AUG-1996 EllenSSeidman Great fun I got a message saying you were away Are you back now kagan 5-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna can i get a copy of that memo I never saw it Thanks kagan 5-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna its 402 The 402 in my book relates to immigrants kagan 5-SEP-1996 EllenSSeidman thanks and thanks were supposedly getting a memo from OLC today though theyre usually late I got a call from a VP of the NYSE yesterday They are running something in their newsletter which goes to all CEOs of NYSE companies on where the candidates stand on the California referendum She wanted to know whether we had a written statement on the subject or even a transcript of oral remarks Do we What do you think we should tell her kagan 9-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna,KennethSApfel,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg No problem This morning I gave Justice the best argument I could develop Im now waiting for aviw from them as to whether theyd be willing to defend the action on my theory or some other Ill let you know as soon as I hear anything I told Ken that between waiting for Justice and talking to Leon Monday seems the realistic target date for a decision kagan 5-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna why dont i talk to anna weve been trading calls anyway about a number of other things thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna can i get a copy of that memo I never saw it Thanks kagan 5-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna gotcha my fault kagan 6-SEP-1996 StephenCWarnath I dont have them Thanks kagan 9-SEP-1996 EllenSSeidman no dont do anything yet we should low key this as much as possible for now when weve all had a chance to look at this memo ill talk to bruce kagan 9-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna no I know doj was working on it over the weekend because i called over there kagan 9-SEP-1996 EllenSSeidman I suspect everyone will be of that view so lets lowkey this as much as possible kagan 9-SEP-1996 EllenSSeidman DOJ is supposed to get me a memo today Of course it was supposed to be ththen friday etc meantime dodds person on the issue called john angell who referred him to me he had heard rumors that we were thinking of doing this and wanted to get some indication of where we were i basically told him we were nowhere i think he thinks were nuts first we veto the secutiry bill then we take on an issue that will make the nadertypes angrier than anything that was in that bill he said that in earlier discussions dodd had decided to stay away from it with a 10foot pole kagan 11-SEP-1996 DeborahLFine,DianaMFortuna No word Were talking with DOJ at 500 kagan 1-SEP-1996 PaulJWeinsteinJr The question is back I 11 get you a new copy today kagan 13-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna ditto kagan 13-SEP-1996 StephenCWarnath I havent gotten that Could you send it to me Thanks kagan 17-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna when is it kagan 19-SEP-1996 JeremyDBenami,KennethSApfel,EmilyBromberg,DianaMFortuna,StephenCWarnath,CarolHRasco,BruceNReed I do apologize to those not invited to todays 500 meeting Ive been trying to do things while sitting in a jury room Thanks for your indulgence kagan 19-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna I think just the meeting with ssa is the right step for now kagan 19-SEP-1996 KennethSApfel,JeremyDBenami,DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg,StephenCWarnath I think we need a meeting today to reach a suppose whether to present this issue to not take very long Can we say before the office Rm 125 kagan 24-SEP-1996 KennethSApfel,BruceNReed,JeremyDBenami,DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg,JohnCAngell,StephenCWarnath Where are we on legislative language that would respond to CAs request for an extension of the food stamp certification period I just got from Yvette Jackson four versions she sent to OMB I may be wrong but I think all four are poorly drafted all in the same way Has OMB been working on its own legislative language Has it been presented to Leon kagan 24-SEP-1996 EmilyBromberg,DianaMFortuna,JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed Also we dont yet have a definitive answer on the question of when the money will go out Until theyve satsified us that they cannot legally send the money out now as they are doing for child care theres nothing to tell anyone kagan 24-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna I talked to Yvette about this I dont think Id press it especially not now kagan 26-SEP-1996 DorothyKCraft fine kagan 00-00-0000 KeithJFontenot,FORTUNA,BarryWhite,DeborahFKramer,CynthiaMSmith,KennethSApfel Thats fine The only point I intended to make is that when we communicate this message and I take it were doing it orally so I wouldnt get obsessed on exact language we shouldnt say that the states are in any way legally prevented from operating under these waivers because theyre not kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna,KeithJFontenot,BarryWhite,DeborahFKramer,CynthiaMSmith,KennethSApfel got it kagan 00-00-0000 JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg,KeithJFontenot We cant very well distinguish between the two kagan 00-00-0000 KeithJFontenot,BarryWhite,DeborahFKramer,CynthiaMSmith,KennethSApfel got it kagan 00-00-0000 KeithJFontenot,FORTUNA,BarryWhite,DeborahFKramer,CynthiaMSmith,KennethSApfel Thats fine The only point I intended to make is that when we communicate this message and I take it were doing it orally so I wouldnt get obsessed on exact language we shouldnt say that the states are in any way legally prevented from operating under these waivers because theyre not kagan 26-SEP-1996 JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed,EmilyBromberg,KennethSApfel,DianaMFortuna,CarolHRasco Wait a minute what is the decision on the waiver what exactly or even not so exactly are they going to say kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna,StephenCWarnath,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg,KennethSApfel,KeithJFontenot I think we should meet too The other option to the one Diana mentions is to try to get out quickly guidance along the lines of what USDA was talking about at our big meeting on the CA proposal the socalled presumption that really isnt a presumption at all and shouldnt be labeled so kagan 27-SEP-1996 AnaniasBlocker,DeborahLFine whatever happened to the coast guard bill kagan 3-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,KeithJFontenot,benami_j,bromberg_e FYI Ive talked with HHS about its legal oplnlon and I think its quite strong We should probably amend the paragraph to reflect that too kagan 2-0CT-1996 JeremyDBenami,KeithJFontenot,DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg Keith what is the Domenici amendment Does it fix the whole New Mexico problem so that we can take this out of the memo were sending to the President kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna,KeithJFontenot,benami_j,bromberg_e FYI Ive talked with HHS about its legal oplnl0n and I think its quite strong We should probably amend the paragraph to reflect that too kagan 4-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna ah I was wondering how come you were able to write emails but not pick up the phone whats up on florida Anna durand just told me she thought all was resolved that HHS would find their plan complete by not looking behind the certification on the 45day comment period and would do so as of Oct 1 Is this what you hear kagan 4-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg,StephenCWarnath,JeremyDBenami what is floridas interpretation kagan 4-0CT-1996 EllenSSeidman You only gave me one qa 2pp kagan 9-0CT-1996 StephenCWarnath friday anytime would be much much better kagan 0-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna ok with me kagan 00-00-0000 DorothyKCraft Ill be there kagan 15-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed,EmilyBromberg Ill defer to others as to whether we should get involved But if we do Id like to know the theory whether CAs or HHSs that would permit deferral of the work requirementsAs I read the relevant section of the statute this seems pretty dicey kagan 15-0CT-1996 EllensSeidman Call me re the fax Michael Schlein sent to us Thanks kagan 15-0CT-1996 EmilyBromberg,DianaMFortuna will do they have nerve dont they kagan 17-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,StephenCWarnath,JeremyDBenami I resolved it but only by agreeing to change one sentence Ive been trying to get in touch with Jeremy to find the newest version of the document so I can do so Do you have it kagan 18-0CT-1996 JeanineDSmartt sounds great kagan 18-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,BruceNReed,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg Do you know if Harriet or Anna will be there Id like to understand the legal theory that would allow this to be done kagan 29-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg I talked with Randy yesterday after speaking with Emily As Emily recommnded I asked him to make a couple of changes in the last paragraph which he agreed to do Hes going to recirculate the letter around the Justice Department so that interested people can review the new draft I assume the timing is sometime next week kagan 30-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna I dont see why not kagan 1-NOV-1996 DianaMFortuna Interesting Am I supposed to have the HHS letters kagan 31-0CT-1996 PaulJWeinsteinJr see attached kagan 7-NOV-1996 DianaMFortuna,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg,RichardEGreen Looks fine to me On another subject HHS held its bucket meeting today I thought the groups made a very strong presentation Anna and I have been trading calls this afternoon so I dont yet know what HHS thought about it kagan 7-NOV-1996 DianaMFortuna yes kagan 13-NOV-1996 DorothyKCraft Im free all afternoon kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr DC briefing papers Thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 SMARTT I dont Im starting to meet with people oneonone but its going to take me well into next week Can I get back to you with a time Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays Thats fine If ed is monday and crime is wednesday welfare can be tues thurs or fri kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays got it thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays Whos katherine button kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays I do Its on my desk kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays Thats my sense too Why dont you say that to him as an initial matter if he objects just tell him to call me kagan 00-00-0000 FORTUNA what does that mean exactly kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed If anyone raises it at 730 we should And I think we in fact should tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 If anyone raises it at 730 we should And I think we in fact should tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 RAYFORDWIL thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 COHEN_M,FORTUNA,HOGAN_L,BURKE_D Erskine has asked us to prepare 6month strategy memos on education welfare and crime Could each of you Dennis in crime Mike in education and Lyn and Diana together in welfare take a first crack at what such a memo should look like Say by COB Monday Many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DRYE_E I just talked with Bruce who will put in a call to Frank kagan 00-00-0000 EllenTDavis Sorry sorry sorry How about Monday at 1000 And really I do apologize for not getting back to you earlier kagan 00-00-0000 FORTUNA I guess weve been promoted kagan 00-00-0000 FORTUNAD Actually Bruce and I both have a meeting at 530 on friday so it should be after that kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro I forgot you did this Could you do it instead Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern Why is Kitty having a meeting on this subject kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews As I told you this morning Bruce and I would like to hold a regular meeting say every couple of weeks on racial issues including affirmative action We had started to plan our first such meeting and had talked about it to Jack Cheryl Maggie and Rahm As some appointments are made particularly to replace Deval we thought we would add some agency people And of course wed love participation from you or anyone else in the Chief of Staffs office We think a regular meeting of this kind would contribute to fashioning a coordinated and strong policy and message on racial matters Let me know what you think Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 SMARTT No there really was no problem kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro Thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern Id like to have our meeting with Melanne first And would you let her know that I should be invited to any meeting on this subject Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke Thanks for the memo Some of these look great kagan 00-00-0000 SMARTT I think you should go ahead its a good project How come HHS has lost interest kagan 00-00-0000 HOGAN_L I think this is a pretty good idea Why dont the three of us find a time when we can all talk together and arrange a handoff thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelWaldman I meant what I said today and what I told Liz last night It was grand and you should feel really proud kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy Ah that meeting I thought you meant our staff meeting this morning Yes this is something were going to have to talk about more especially given the enthusiam among some people around here for flex programs kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy DOJ and I closed out this matter for purposes of the First Ladys event and I dont think we should reopen it A more definitive legal opinion right now will make things harder not easier for the First Lady tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 DorothyKCraft Lets say 1030 kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,JeanineDSmartt,PaulineMAbernathy If theres anything that would be useful for me to have before our meeting tomorrow please let me know or just give it to me If not thats fine too kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan You sent Terry the new qa on constitutionality as well as the old kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall See attached which DOJ signed off on I clearly overreacted sorry kagan 00-00-0000 DianeCRegas yes lets kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt,NicoleRRabner,PaulineMAbernathy Can we all meet tomorrow at 430 in my office Any later time would also be fine with me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan,PaulineMAbernathy Heres what I would suggest including in the First Ladys briefing materials DOJ has signed off on this language any changes should be made only with my approval Pauline Please make Melanne aware of this Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 GeneBSperling,RahmIEmanuel,MichaelDMcCurry,SylviaMMathews Sylvia was right the Business Roundtable is coming out with a statement today endorsing our standards and testing proposals Apparently the Roundtable has never taken positions on higher ed issues kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMMcKiernan Here they are approved by Bruce kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed I forgot to tell you that also at the 730 meeting in a twosecond exchange Doug Sosnik asked John Podesta whether he was talking with the NEA and John answered that he was Whats that all about kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,LynAHogan How is it theres a legal problem with speaking to them but not with doing all this other stuff to support Eli Can we get the counsels office to opine on what were doing kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Yo Bruce by not ccing me youre just making your staff do extra workBut they do seem to be getting pretty well trained kagan 00-00-0000 Yo Bruce by not ccing me youre just making your staff do extra workBut they do seem to be getting pretty well trained kagan 00-00-0000 KevinMOKeefe If its NEC they want then you want Kathy Wallman I know its hard to keep track of all these relocating lawyers kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays yes thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro Lets say Monday What do you mean dry kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays looks fine kagan 00-00-0000 DorothyKCraft 530 is fine Can you also make sure that Wendy White from the counsels office is invited kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt Im clear all day Thursday I dont think we need a dropby kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed You bet Anything in particcular you want in the weekly report kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,CathyRMays Im attaching a draft invitation to our next dpc meeting kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan,BruceNReed,PaulineMAbernathy,NicoleRRabner Ill do this right now kagan 00-00-0000 KevinMOKeefe Were happy to do whatever you think should be done I just thought that since they requested NEC it should go over there first But if you disgaree just let me know kagan 00-00-0000 SaraMLatham yes thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays Could you send the attached memo to all DPC members inviting them to our meeting on Friday morning Bruce has approved it Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson heres the paragraph kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson thanks looks good kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,JeanineDSmartt,PaulineMAbernathy Attached is a new version of the 03 memo Nicole or Pauline Please check it with Melanne if you think she would want to see it Note also the new time for the meeting Could whoever arranged for the room before check if it is available at the new time Finally does one of you have the latest draft of the eo either in hard copy or on your email someplace Im sure I should but I cant seem to find it Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt,BruceNReed,DianaFortuna Cant we convince them to put their conference off If we have too many each will be hurt kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabnerNicoleRRabner we usually have regular 400 meetings on education welfare etc how about 200 ojn one of those days kagan 00-00-0000 AnneEMcGuire Diana Fortuna is coordinating the voluntarism summit And sorry for not responding to your question earlier my email was out for a bit and then Ijust forgot kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt,BruceNReed,DianaFortuna I just saw Ron down at the mess and mentioned it to himHe said he thought they needed to do the empowerment conf in april because its way overdue already kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt no lets touch base in the morning thanks kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,JeanineDSmartt,PaulineMAbernathy Attached is a new version of the 03 memo Nicole or Pauline Please check it with Melanne if you think she would want to see it Note also the new time for the meeting could whoever arranged for the room before check if it is available at the new time Finally does one of you have the latest draft of the eo either in hard copy or on your email someplace Im sure I should but I cant seem to find it Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 RichardLHayes ok kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel,BruceNReed that as part of your looking over our proposed solution you will run some numbers to find out approx how many states will fall short and by how much of the minimum wage as the required number of hours of work increases kagan 00-00-0000 Could you take a look at the attached we should try to get it out today or early tomorrow if we can thanks One question should it come from just you or from both of us kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt thanks but could you just give me the eo Id like to make some changes to it kagan 00-00-0000 RichardLHayes OK by meIm checking with steve warnath from my office as well kagan 00-00-0000 StephenCWarnath can you make this time kagan 00-00-0000 can you make this time kagan 00-00-0000 yes thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen tell me ifwhen she responds kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen shameless kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed does this seem ok to you kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed FYII did answer it kagan 00-00-0000 FYII did answer it kagan 00-00-0000 SarahSFreeman looks great kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews We put it in the 9th point which is called lifelong learning As you probably know the schooltowork program provides workbased learning to high school and college students integrating academic and vocational instruction We thought the program best fit in the lifelong learning section because of its job training aspect The other initiative discussed in that section is the GI Bill Skill Grant kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel Ken wed like to send out the attached documents to cabinet secretaries As you can see from the cover memo the presidential directive will be sent out in draft Are you OK with them Let me know ASAP kagan 00-00-0000 KatherineHubbard Hmmm DOT should have been notified They should call Cathy Mays 66515 kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Kathy said sylvia spoke to her about the office question Sylvia said she was getting bad vibes about it and made the point that most deputies dont have WH offices Of course the other two policy council deputies do From the cpnversation Kathy thought you should talk with Sylvia again before too much time goes by kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman Here they finally are My email wasnt working all day If you want to make changes let me know Otherwise could you plug this in and send a new copy of the memo around to everyone kagan 00-00-0000 SEIDMAN yes can i get back to you by the end of the day kagan 00-00-0000 BarryWhite,CathyRMays does that mean me kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed thought youd like this kagan 00-00-0000 thought youd like this kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays yes kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley me for now kagan 00-00-0000 JillMpizzuto I can do 5 though 530 is better not before thanks kagan 00-00-0000 KrisMBalderston diana fortuna kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed the rest of the memo kagan 00-00-0000 the rest of the memo kagan 00-00-0000 The following attachments were included with this message kagan 00-00-0000 EllenSSeidman looking right now kagan 00-00-0000 KrisMBalderston nope kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna here it is kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley No sorry Leg affs probably would kagan 00-00-0000 JillMpizzuto which people from the agencies kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr I had no idea Ill be around either here or at home kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel you bet kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel If its OK with you well just note the change at the meeting and send out a new version of the memo after we get the agencies feedback as well kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,DianaFortuna I have to think that DOJ will feel a need to defend kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanAKaplan tomorrow at noon ok kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Coukd you take a look at this before I give it to the folk going to the afl council meeting kagan 00-00-0000 DianeIkemiyashiro looks good kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta,GeneBSperling,BruceNReed Attached is a qa on the minimum wagewelfare issue for use at the afl council meeting Its very much in line with the approach the President approved in reviewing Genes memoIm also getting the qa to the VP along with a background memo which you guys will get too I s there anyone else who should have it kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt Looks fine thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt lets talk all these through at the meeting Tuesday thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AnneEMcGuire,BruceNReed Very possibly I take it the report is coming from HHS Can we get an advance draft as soon as possible kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan By the by in case you ever have to write to her its Eldie short for Eleanor I thin kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays sure if no one else wants them thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke Call me re the scheduling requests that Bruce sent over kagan 00-00-0000 ElaineCKamarck 1 where are we on setting up a process for the welfaretowork flexibility act that you were interested in Should we meet with or without some staff to figure out next steps kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna Can we find some time to talk about service stuff How about wednesday at 10 kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan soundss good to me But I wouldnt announce anything until weve approved everything kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna lets talk about your legal immigrant meetings at the same time kagan 00-00-0000 StephenCWarnath Whats the status on this kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,JeanineDSmartt,NicoleRRabner Could we get together Tuesday at 300 to plan next steps Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DenaBweinstein,JeanineDSmartt,DianeCRegas,ChristopherCJennings,DianaFortuna,MichaelCohen,BUBLICKMAX,StephenCWarnath,LeanneAShimabukuro,JeanneLambrew,LynAHogan,DRYE_E,DennisKBurke,PaulineMAbernathy,BruceNReed Wed like to put together a master list of actionevent ideas things the President can do in all the areas we work on please include actions already in the planning stage as well as ideas still on the drawing board kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye thanks kagan 00-00-0000 WEINSTEIN Could we meet sometime for you to give me an update on campaign finance stuff Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianeCRegas Thanks for offering on the 03 meeting The meeting covered such a wide range of things that I thought it would be a waste of your time to be there kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,BruceNReed Yes but It is very very unusual for the Justice Dept to decline to defend the constitutionality of a law The standard is that the law must be patently unconstitutional I dont believe many or any of the legal immigrant provisions would meet that standardWhen DOJ does decline to defend it has not to notify Congress so that Congress has an opportunity to join the suit So I agree that we shouldnt go out of our way to criticize Chiles but we should understand that were almost certainly going to be fighting him in court kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye Just pass the request on to Chris Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,KennethSApfel I do agree with you In fact Bruce told the President before his meeting with congressional leaders that it was way too early to express any support for a block grant approach kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen ask Paul to check on this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,ThomasCJensen Mike do you know anything about this If so please include Tom kagan 00-00-0000 Mike do you know anything about this If so please include Tom kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,PaulJweinsteinJr Sounds like a great idea though think Id talk with Katie first kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasCJensen Tom sorry I didnt forward this to Mike in time kagan 00-00-0000 Tom sorry I didnt forward this to Mike in time kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Sounds like an opportunity Ive asked Diana to find out when its coming out and to get hold of a draft to review kagan 00-00-0000 Sounds like an opportunity Ive asked Diana to find out when its coming out and to get hold of a draft to review kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna Could you check in with Ken to find out where we stand on the bucket issue He said something to me about the issue the other day but I didnt quite get what he was proposing kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,JeanineDSmartt,PaulineMAbernathy n O L E T SCHANGEI TTHEN HOWABOUT5 kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed I just looked at the draft memo from Lyn on welfare stats that youre working on Unless Im missing something it strikes me that the chart on p 3 is wrong Let me know if you want to go over this kagan 00-00-0000 ElaineCKamarck On the flex bill it will be me and a staff member perhaps Paul Weinstein I guess one question is whether you want to include OMB I defer to you on that kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall could you send me the two cases thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Id say Mike definitely and then either you or me kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasCJensen Tom sorry I didnt manage to pass on your message earlier It looks like my delinquency created another meeting kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna at your convenience give me a call about a child support radio address kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays ive sent to ashley kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna Today at 3 for service kagan 00-00-0000 BrooksEscoville same place 218 kagan 00-00-0000 JillMpizzuto Any are fine kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed eeks should we reschedule it would be good if you were there methinks kagan 00-00-0000 BrooksEScoville can you come by again later today say around 6 or so kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJWeinsteinJrPaulJWeinsteinJr tomorrow at II kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr yes anytime kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna 1 Could you do a quick email to me and bruce summarizing your immigrantwelfare meeting where we are what you did what will happen now and where Bruces or my involvement would help kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye,BruceNReed yes i think so call cheryl mills and ask her who has taken on this issue kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba Ignore my last message It looks like I will be able to come that afternoon Call me to set up a time kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt,PaulineMAbernathy,NicoleRRabner Heres the EO Please give to the Staff Sec Remind Phil that its already been circulated once and that we we have incorporated all proposed changes kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba bruce is away and Im afraid i cant do anything that afternoon very sorry kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,PaulJweinsteinJr who should meet with one of us kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,DianaFortuna Should we put our moe fix into the technicals package weve always referred to it as a clarifying amendment kagan 00-00-0000 Should we put our moe fix into the technicals package weve always referred to it as a clarifying amendment kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed i will if you think i should do you kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna Youre clearly better at ccing than Bruce is What note kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed that seems like a decent proposal to put forward at todaysmeeting Do you still want to talk to Mike andor Dennis sometime today kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan no problem kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna I agreed though noted that hhs would be extremely resistant to either kagan 00-00-0000 I agreed though noted that hhs would be extremely resistant to either kagan 00-00-0000 CherylDMills Sorry to bug you but their settlement conference is on Monday so they need to know what they can say today As we discussed all they really want is to be able to tell the Judge that there is a meeting scheduled with DOJ to discuss the issue kagan 00-00-0000 RondaHJackson yes thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan,BruceNReed Ill get you a copy an then we should all talk about it kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall,PeterGJacoby,PaulJWeinsteinJr Is Justice right We should be agressive here kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Yes as between the twothough of course hhs will be almost as resistant to the one as to the other kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg yes kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,BruceNReed Maria mentioned this morning that the Gay and Lesbian Servicemembers Legal Defense Fund is going to come out with a report this week saying that treatment of gays and lesbians in the armed forces is worse than ever As you can see I just got notice of a meeting on the subject kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed yep just put in a call kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall what of the other points kagan 00-00-0000 StephenCWarnath,BruceNReed I read the new guidance Whats the further guidance on the issue that everyone is supposed to wait for I thought DOJ has decided that it cant waive the oath what exactly are they still thinking about kagan 00-00-0000 SuzanneDale yes kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt thanks kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba sorry what date are we talking about again kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed do you think we should do anything with this perhaps wait to see what the Presidents reaction is to the weekly report item kagan 00-00-0000 do you think we should do anything with this perhaps wait to see what the Presidents reaction is to the weekly report item kagan 00-00-0000 DRYE_E,BruceNReed A tobacco event lasting no more than an hour has been set for Friday morning Content yet to be determined kagan 00-00-0000 StephenCWarnath steve please go if you can I mayor may not join you kagan 00-00-0000 steve please go if you can I mayor may not join you kagan 00-00-0000 JuneGTurner either I or steve warnath will attend thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt Could you talk with me about this Monday morning thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneIJohnson ok with me kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey Cheryl tells me that youre talking with DOJ about the noknock case and that we agree with each other if not with DOJ on what DOJ ought to argue Let me know what happens and let me know if theres anything Bruce or I can do to help kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,StephenCWarnath,BruceNReed I read the brief that counsels office sent over It looks pretty clear to me that the brief is right in saying that the welfare law forbids illegal aliens from receiving medicaid coverage for nonemergency prenatal care So Id tell DOJ to go ahead and file Does anyone disagree kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna no I think hes saying to tell susan golonka is that her name to give up on medicaid and switch her lobbying efforts to child care so that golonka is pushing hhs for this kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan many thanks ill read it tonight kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna yes how much workfare was cwep how much was awep etc also could you and emily try to include me when you talk to Cathy Way kagan 00-00-0000 DianeCRegas,JeanineDSmartt Youre right but its been signed and I dont think we its worth having to get it signed again kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed I asked Steve to send you an email but the basic answer is no one could really object to this refugee report and in fact DOJ Ed and DPC dont object because the report doesnt say much of anything For example the reports main recommendation is that HHS will engage in consultations on the question how to promote economic selfsufficiency among refugees The real work starts now and we should keep on HHS in consultation with DOJ Ed and State to do it kagan 00-00-0000 TrooperSanders I think Im through talking with people but thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt thanks thats great kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,BruceNReed could you do up a paragraph on our moe legislative fix using basically the same language as we added to the last piece of Golden testimony then give me a chance to see it and then well ship it to ombmany thnks kagan 00-00-0000 could you do up a paragraph on our moe legislative fix using basically the same language as we added to the last piece of Golden testimony then give me a chance to see it and then well ship it to ombmany thnks kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel could you do up a paragraph on our moe legislative fix using basically the same language as we added to the last piece of Golden testimony then give me a chance to see it and then well ship it to ombmany thnks kagan 00-00-0000 TrooperSanders I dont have much to report still figuring kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna great kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi these were fridays talking points for mccurry ive given kathy kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr Paul could you get everyones in and formatted by this evening and then give them to me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 Paul could you get everyones in and formatted by this evening and then give them to me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 77________RussellWHorwitz Paul could you get everyones in and formatted by this evening and then give them to me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JuneGTurner okill cancel another meeting kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed The mayor of nashville wanted to meet with you Friday Because youre away he now wants to meet with me Its something about national parks Im assuming I should do this Yes kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi this is the brief arguing that illegal aliens arent entitled to medicaid for prenatal services kagan 00-00-0000 fyi this is the brief arguing that illegal aliens arent entitled to medicaid for prenatal services kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel,DianaFortuna I guess I disagree Weve always spoken of this fix as a clarifying amendment Thats exactly what should be going in the technicals bill So we should ask for it to go in there If you want child support in as well thats fine with us kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed This is the program the ag is so keen on kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba 400 kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason Here are qa from the DPC kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed why are you forwarding this to me Do you want me to answer her kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna and what did we think kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan yes kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays please say Ill be attending for bruce thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,KennethSApfel Thats right And frankly I could write this language myself in ten minutes kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna what is their unified position kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays I will try to get there If not Ill make sure someone else goes Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing I have the memo I believe my premeet with Brisco and whoever she wants to bring is still on for Friday but I will check and let you and Vicki know kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed what service memo email me a copy if you have it thanks kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba here it is kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna ive thought ive thought kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed yes but counsel will say no kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed here it is kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays Could you find out if its OK for both Diana and I to go Thanks Have you heard from Bruce kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethMToohey you bet Im not having any conversations yet though I think the womens office is having a groups meeting tomorrow at 330 Im sending you a copy of the talking points kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan I havent sent it yet in fact I havent read your latest What labor issue is still unresolved kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason Well get the campaign finance stuff figured out I think Richard Socarides has talking points for the dont ask dont tell And well provide a qa on abortion Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson thanks Yes 35 is education kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason yes thats great and we can certainly vet socarides talking points too kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro you made me laugh for the first time today congratulations and thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing Not much They asked for different kinds of assistance for minority farmers including funding and publicprivate efforts USDA staff pledged to review the proposals and see if they could help USDA will keep us informed Theres nothing we need to do right now kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna you dont have to do the 330 But I thought the summit meeting was at 1030 kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings Thanks a ton I did get a call from NancyAnn kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner by the by what does it say on reasonable efforts kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing ohthanks kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton Ill do one and get it to you ive already done some talking points kagan 00-00-0000 Ill do one and get it to you ive already done some talking points kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing could you check the number for walter powell the one you gave me goes to a fax machine thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing Oh lord No I couldnt so I sent Steve Warnath whos the person on our staff who does civil rights issues Ill be glad to give a call to someone It sounds to me from Steves account of the meeting that a meeting would be pointless kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton cant dosorry kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton still no i think kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt you bet good idea kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner I am so sorry but Ive just found out i have to be a meeting at 5 can we change to any time between 10 and 3 I know I know this means sending out another message thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy I cant either cabinet meeting and bruce isnt here kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna Ill talk with her about it Thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 MarciaLHale,StephanieSStreett,AnneWHawley,JohnPodesta There will be about 45 chief state school officers in Washington Theyre meeting at the Westin Washington City Center at 1400 M St kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason all of last weeks thanks kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel,AnneWHawley march 17 or 18 kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason Ill review 65557 Hope its not too late kagan 00-00-0000 JeanneLambrew thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 RobertMShiremanRobertMShireman Theyve offered a lot of help I dont think theres any need to push kagan 00-00-0000 StephenCwarnath thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,ChristaRobinson,DennisKBurke,MichelleCrisci Interesting idea but Id check it very carefully with DOJ The last thing we need is for Mcveighs lawyer to charge that were participating in creating a climate that will prevent kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohenMichaelCohen yes excellent idea kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett ask her if they can make it 515 or 530 thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ask her if they can make it 515 or 530 thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,BruceNReed yes absolutely sorry for not replying earlier kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice laura emmett kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke,BruceNReed,MichelleCrisci,ChristaRobinson Interesting idea but Id check it very carefully with DOJThe last thing we need is for McVeighs lawyer to charge that were helping to create a climate that will prevent McVeigh from getting a fair trial kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed arrggh we should talk briefly about this kagan 00-00-0000 arrggh we should talk briefly about this kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro thanks what does it mean for a printer to be networked kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman 1 whens good to talk about this kids eo 2 would you like a divider between us or would you rather not kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed caught me kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett I take it this means Buce wants me to go so put it on the schedule Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 I take it this means Buce wants me to go so put it on the schedule Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MaryMorrison I take it this means Buce wants me to go so put it on the schedule Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 Yes ask Dennis what he thinks and let him know NEC is asking Rahm Whos doing this for nee kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke,BruceNReed,LeanneAShimabukuro I know I really meant Biden If our chief negotiator views it as indefensible then we have problems I think we can make a decent case that its NOT a simple betrayal An important question is whether Biden will buy this kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie eli can i get a copy thanks kagan 00-00-0000 eli can i get a copy thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett,CynthiaARice can you reschedule the buifurcation meeting as explained below I think it has to be this week kagan 00-00-0000 can you reschedule the buifurcation meeting as explained below I think it has to be this week kagan 00-00-0000 WEINSTEIN lets find a nice one kagan 00-00-0000 lets find a nice one kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy absolutely kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke,BruceNReed,LeanneAShimabukuro China or not I think this is still worth doing IF folks on the Hill wont view it as a betrayal of our commitment Do we have word from Bidens office yet Lets talk kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye yes id like that kagan 00-00-0000 yes id like that kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett keep the meeting at 1 eliz can do it without me kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice 1 starting from when It would seem a bit peculiar to count any welfare recipient ever hired Do they mean starting from when the welfare bill was signed that would make more sense But even if they report earlier progress I think we should also make them keep track from the time of the directive kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed you bet kagan 00-00-0000 FROM,DennisKBurke lets talk about this kagan 00-00-0000 lets talk about this kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed AM kagan 00-00-0000 AM kagan 00-00-0000 RFC822headers Received from conversionpmdfeopgov by PMDFEOPGOV PMDF VS04 6879 kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett I told kathy 2 would be fine kagan 00-00-0000 I told kathy 2 would be fine kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman 1 I think 2 will work though I have a 1 and a 215 so I cant promise If not 5 2 Sounds right Lets see if we can come up with a nice one They the great they whoever they are at least owe us that much kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson But id never say it kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner yours kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis oops kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis oops kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason see attched kagan 00-00-0000 PatriciaFLewis Kathy whalen is the person to give us answers thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed damn you want this meeting smaller right kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed damn you want this meeting smaller right kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed here it is kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock here it is kagan 00-00-0000 JillMpizzuto vladek can come too if he wants thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett ok with me kagan 00-00-0000 ok with me kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed gee im flattered kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed does this suggest were not off the hook on our weekly kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed does this suggest were not off the hook on our weekly kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,MichaelCohen,CynthiaARice Dont know this seems like a good question Why dont you check it out with the Labor Dept kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Could you call Chris Cerf or his secretary atl PSbS land set up a time tomorrow when we could talk to each other by telephone for 10 or 15 minutes Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ShelleyNFidler I dont think we have much choice Ill put something together Is thursday OK with you guys kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman,TraceyEThornton,PeterGJacoby,BruceRLindsey I agree and Ill try to get the memo around within the next day or two kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallmanKathleenMWallman sounds good let me check with ceq and set it up kagan 00-00-0000 JillMpizzuto hell get over it i really appreciate your doing this for us kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews Yes Ill make sure you get a copy of the memo kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews Reno is totally into this conference and has talked about it to Bruce and me at our DPC meetings The person DOJ has been sending to our interagency meetings is a fount of ideas which we are making much use of kagan 00-00-0000 RondaHJackson yes thats fine But I have to be out by 9 so could you schedule me accordinglythanks kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays Cathy could you send Sylvia a copy of the needles memo that went to the President from Bruce and Eric Goosby Many thanks Ive told Sylvia its coming kagan 00-00-0000 Cathy could you send Sylvia a copy of the needles memo that went to the President from Bruce and Eric Goosby Many thanks Ive told Sylvia its coming kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please confirm for methanks kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy Its good to know we have an ally in that office kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton w illdotomorrowthanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett see attached kagan 00-00-0000 see attached kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr wow this is great kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDryeElizabethDrye what did she say kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,PaulineMAbernathy sounds great By the way I think we probably should try to address concerns on parents Can we kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,NicoleRRabner,JenniferLKlein sounds fine but does this mean melanne knows something i dont about the dod stuff kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,LauraEmmett Makes sense Laura could you get a copy from Julie Mason of the latest complete set of qa for the Presidents press conference and copy it for everyone so that they know what theyre making changes additions and subtractions off ofLet everyone know that thats why youre circulating it kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen lets get in on this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 lets get in on this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,CynthiaARice correcting written statements after the fact sounds a bit orwellian methinks and this is after only two months on the job what next kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall A thousand apologies for the delay Here they are kagan 00-00-0000 WPCP 2BVTZ lxxxxXXx6XDQXHPL aserJet4Plus4MPlusHL4PLPLUWRSxO YX2PVbDZlxCourier NewTTxxxXaXx6XDQXHP LaserJet 4 Plus4M PlusHL4PL PLUWRSxD kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton,PeterGJacoby,JohnLHilley Attached is a memo on products laibility I drafted for submission to the President Bruce Lindsey thinks its what we need to 1 remind the President of where we are and 2 get some indication from the President of how much if at all he wants to give on the issue I take it that NEC doesnt want the memo to go in apparently it wants to start some kind of interagency policy process In any event I thought you might want to see this draft memo Id of course appreciate any suggestions kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice It must be on its way back to you I thought it was great but possibly too long so if you can find some things to cut that would probably be goodthanks kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton,PeterGJacoby,JohnLHilley oops 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE0 00000000 kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallmanKathleenMWallman You bet Ill take it home with me tonight kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice and feel free to have laura set this up kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan Congratulations Thats a wonderful opportunity and youre the perfect person for it And it will be great having someone we can all trust over there just to make sure great things get done kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr,BruceNReed,ThomasLFreedman i guess everyones ganging up on me but i still think id be really really careful which doesnt mean not to do anything but does mean lining up our ducks superwell before we become the lead office in something that involves two particular people at USTR on a matter that NEC and NSC will consider far more in their ballpark than in ours kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,PaulineMAbernathy sorry mike I think she has tohas tohas to be AfricanAmerican kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr,BruceNReed,ThomasLFreedman along the same lines its not clear to me that this is a major or even a minor conflict of interest Presumably theyre arguing with the chinese to open up trade to american companies thats exactly what their future american clients will want them to be doing so the broad interests here are not adverse as the conflict of interest rules proscribe kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,JenniferLKlein,PaulineMAbernathy Where is my paper kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice No problem This looks right but check with Diana Also ask Diana andor Ken whether they think we need all the other agency people in a meeting devoted to ficaeitc My sense is that we do but I wish we didnt Many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DavidShipley,NicoleRRabner,JenniferLKlein,PaulineMAbernathy,KatharineButton I told Janet Yellin that I would work hard to make sure that the First Lady mentioned the CEA white paper some time during the day Nothing more than a single sentence is necessary something to the effect that the cea is releasing a report today demonstrating the returns from investing in young children Is that OK with everyone Let me know if its a kagan 00-00-0000 JakeSiewert,KathleenMWallman looks ok to me kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,DavidShipley exactly kagan 00-00-0000 CliffordJGabriel I think it would be extremely confusing to issue two documents on one day with recommendations to form two different but obviously overlapping entities Id have to argue for not releasing the ostp report on monday if that were the case kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen great workthanks kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv Its one of the initiatives were announcing at tomorrows conference kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy yes kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen great workthanks kagan 00-00-0000 BradleyMCampbell brad my comments are on their way theyre pretty minor but i think important great job kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro i take it pauline has told you about my few comments Great job kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett find 15 minutes today for this and tell him thanks kagan 00-00-0000 find 15 minutes today for this and tell him thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye did you have any kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman lauras going to call you with a time youve been notably generous this morning in nit saying I told you so kagan 00-00-0000 StephenCWarnath when do we need a decision by kagan 00-00-0000 CliffordJGabriel Ill have to look at this more closely Frankly Im skeptical kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner absolutely thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice Im not going to have much time today Could you and Diana look over the specs very very carefully and keep pressing for legislative language thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye dont know yet remind me again tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye you didnt attach anything kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed theyre still not over kagan 00-00-0000 theyre still not over kagan 00-00-0000 BettyWCurrie theyre still not over kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke great for what its worth i think its a pretty good idea too kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman sorry its taken me so long to respond to this whatever you want kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke you can see im catching up on old emails did this ever happen kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke this sounds like a great idea are we going forward kagan 00-00-0000 JOLIN_M This sounds interesting It would be great if you would keep me informedthanks kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneIJohnson looks fine kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye this is getting boring kagan 00-00-0000 JordanTamagni no attachment kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke oh wel lets forget then kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan have you sent around a copy of the outline i havent gotten it thanks kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain I assume you know that well be glad to do anything we can to help you with your June family conference Just let us know hat would be helpful Or perhaps we should get some folks together some time to discuss plans Whatever you want kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett PM kagan 00-00-0000 PM kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr thanks a ton kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie,BruceNReed Well have it a bit later in the day thanks kagan 00-00-0000 StephenCWarnath yes i did but ill let him know kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie Its with Bruce nowWhen did NEC give you theirs kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,CynthiaARice preferably as a pander to labor kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Bruce note well that as I understand it this proposal is not to defer but to forgive the years worth of interest kagan 00-00-0000 Bruce note well that as I understand it this proposal is not to defer but to forgive the years worth of interest kagan 00-00-0000 SarahABianchi could you also send these to Beverly Barnes Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi ill send you a couple of long emails steve w wrote me on the issue just in case the Commissioner calls kagan 00-00-0000 fyi ill send you a couple of long emails steve w wrote me on the issue just in case the Commissioner calls kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed im missing something combine what kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain Of course no problem Jim Kohlenberg has come to all our meetings on getting ready for the NC decision If theres someone else who should be there just let me know And whenever we figure out how to playa role in the settlement issue we will most assuredly let you knowBruce R and I are meeting today with Bruce L to discuss the need to set up a process We want to work closely with you guys on this kagan 00-00-0000 PeterGJacoby same ones as before I think kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie oh well kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie but how many events do they each have kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice could you send over the paper thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis Oh I dont know Child support is for the most part about helping mothers Maybe not the mothers of the families featured in Hallmark cards but mothers nonetheless and lots of them Youre the message guru and perhaps Bruce will disagree but I dont mind this in fact I think its kind of a good fit kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie style what about substance kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,EliGAttie No really its my fault Bruce Im ashamed to say that Eli tells me we even were later than nec kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye Oh take a little credit yourself Or a lot You did great work kagan 00-00-0000 FROM,JonathanPrince thanks and is my onepager anywhere in sight kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice what good can come of that he shouldnt go kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg cant imagine how congratulations kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed,CathyRMays on its way call me and ill fill you in kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman 1 i havent But Ive exchanged lots of calls with HHS kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye,BruceNReed fine kagan 00-00-0000 DRYE_E could you remember to get me the other sides briefs many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Thanks for the Hackney memos Todd showed me the lecture series memo a while ago with handwritten notes by the President indicating that he quite liked it What happened kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro,DennisKBurke whatever happened to Tom Freedmans idea about lifetime parole for sexual predators Is someone still looking into that or has it died kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,BruceNReed Mike could you talk with Barry Toiv about the advisory board eo Susan Page of USAToday wants to do a story about how we use our executive powers focusing on one particular executive action and your eo seems the right one to highlight I believe Burce gave Barry a couple of other choices but yours is clearly the best I told Barry a bit about the idea but said that youd provide him with more detail thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro,DennisKBurke Ditto for Freedmans gun running idea ie where are we on that kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro,DennisKBurke In the draft memo you gave me theres a handwritten note referring to a Breaux proposal on crack sentencing What is this kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides whatever happened to it kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv,WilliamRKincaid,MichaelCohen Since we didnt get the statement out yesterday wed like to issue it early next week when the full House passes the bill Does that sound OK kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv there werent many stories anyway let me know if theres anything you think we can do kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman cheers kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman youve been in britain too much kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman yikes me a lawyer I have a crazy schedule today but will be out tomorrow can we do it after the staff meeting kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice it was ruled nongermane I heard Rich thinks theyre waiting to see what Ersine says and depending on that may try again in the House kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,WilliamRKincaidcNwilliamRKincaid can you take care of this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 can you take care of this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 how great call laura emmett and set up a time we can talk i look forward to it kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,WilliamRKincaid whats the likely timing on IDEAhouse passage senate passage kagan 00-00-0000 whats the likely timing on IDEAhouse passage senate passage kagan 00-00-0000 GREEN 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDA TE0 00 00 0000 kagan 00-00-0000 EllenSSeidman,BruceRLindsey,KathleenMWallman I suspect its a lot better than the alternative Ingrid can you send me a copy of the bill thanks kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamRKincaidcNwilliamRKincaid,MichaelCohen could one of you let barry know the answer to this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could one of you let barry know the answer to this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv You bet Heres the statement kagan 00-00-0000 You bet Heres the statement kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley Your voicemail wont let me leave a message Call me kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,WilliamRKincaidcNwilliamRKincaid absolutely kagan 13-MAY-1997 good thanks but i take it the president wants a memo on the subject kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen Dear whomever kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews It seems the hearing was last week and everything went well Shays focused mostly on desert storm issues barely touching on informed consent No one else aked much of anything kagan 00-00-0000 EricPGoosby Oh got it I thought sylvias message was referring to yet another meeting tomorrow am is fine thanks kagan 00-00-0000 EricPGoosby whats this all about kagan 00-00-0000 CherylMCarter they beat me to it im pretty sure but let me get back to you tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 LawrenceJHaas Dear whomever kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides rich has the dnc actually done this already kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv i just left it for sylvia kagan 00-00-0000 i just left it for sylvia kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed You and Elizabeth kagan 00-00-0000 EricPGoosby,BruceNReed eric do you know about this kagan 00-00-0000 eric do you know about this kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi barry wants to issue the statement after house passage and we agreed kagan 00-00-0000 fyi barry wants to issue the statement after house passage and we agreed kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi richard just gave me draft talking points kagan 00-00-0000 fyi richard just gave me draft talking points kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Dear whomever kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews well check it out kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,BruceNReed we generally do 80 policy to 20 communications kagan 00-00-0000 please print this out on white house stationery and give it to Michelle kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda no problem im ok kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,BruceNReed Just be glad you missed the ven diagram we heard about for two months kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson thanks keep looking into this id rather leave the cap police out of the memo entirely if treasury will be able to come back at us and say that the officers who do what the unif div cops do are exempted kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro fantastic you heard before I did kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye do we have qa kagan 00-00-0000 MaryEGlynn Is this still on I think we were going to set up a time and you were going to bring me some clips Thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 15-MAY-1997 BruceNReed We will NOT talk about race at 60 of our race initiative meetings and talk about race at 40 On the other hand we will talk about race at 60 of our race initiative conference and NOT talk about race at 40 As for ourcommissiqn kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta,SylviaMMathews I forget who asked about whether we could announce our intent to nominate Satcher but the view from this office is that we definitely should not He has done a lot of writing some of it may be controversial we are not finished reviewing it yet and we are not prepared to start answering questions All in all we would be buying trouble kagan 00-00-0000 EllenSSeidman Id expect no less Really thanks a lot kagan 00-00-0000 PeterGJacoby,IngridMSchroeder,TraceyEThornton,KathleenMWallman,EllenSSeidman sounds right to me kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye ok kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Podesta says the President has expressed some skepticism about the new EEOC guidelines on accommodating workers with mentalpsychological disabilities Podesta says this is somewhat sensitive because Mrs Gore has come out publicly in favor of the guidelines Podesta suggested that we write a memo to him not directly to the President laying out the situation what the guidelines do what the process was for issuing them what is likely to happen now and whatever else you think appropriate Thanks much By the way in case you havent dealt with the EEOC before Ive always found ellen vargas the general counsel there to be fairly helpful kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed from this mornings meeting Erskine asked for feedback on whether to have one or two meetings in the morning andor on whether to take other steps to improve staff morale I dont think he expects feedback from everyone so if you have nothing to say on this important issue I suspect thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye and whos doing the briefing memo and can i see a copy kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince Could you write up a brief description of th housing bill and our objections to it for the weekly Thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 I dont think we can say anything much yet Id be noncommittal but vaguely forwardleaning Something like Were still reviewing the petition and dont yet have a view on how the FCC should respond But it presents some interesting ideas and we are giving it close consideration kagan 00-00-0000 EllenSSeidman im not volunteering sorry kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna yes good kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print these out for me some time today kagan 00-00-0000 please print these out for me some time today kagan 00-00-0000 WEINSTEIN can you if not just let me know kagan 00-00-0000 can you if not just let me know kagan 00-00-0000 can you if not just let me know kagan 00-00-0000 yes thanks and could we please ask diana too kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CherylMCarter yes and on mine too call laura emmett thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule this kagan 00-00-0000 CherylMCarter Yes Sorry it took so long to get back to you Do you want to set it up or should we kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen 1 The part of your weekly entry on the civil rights community ie the issue of giving an englishonly reading test didnt make it into this weeks memo Whenever you think it makes sense ie when theres some kind of hook even if its only a meeting could you give me something on this again I do think we should make the President aware of this issue kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelDMcCurry,SylviaMMathews I think its almost certain he will be our nominee so theres no need to backpedal We just dont want to make things official before were fully prepared to answer questions about his writings and record kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,CynthiaARice sure thing i had assumed bruce sent it to you when he sent it to me what are you doing here go home kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda Could you take a shot at glvlng me and bruce your best ideas on what policy pieces we should try to incorporate in the race initiative you know the 20 part Many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JamesTEdmonds terry could you get me the final version of the morgan state speech no rushthanks kagan 00-00-0000 EllenSSeidman Is the sap I got friday from you Call me Id like to talk with you about whether we can go even further in explaining why our position here has no relevance to the products bill kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Bill Corr called friday to tell me that hhs has agreed to provide a detailee to rep waxman to review new tobacco documents The detail should last about a week Corr made clear that he was just notifying us not asking our permission kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Have you looked at the doj memo on crack sentences When you have Id like to talk with you about next steps just tell me when kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,ChristopherCJennings This is the memo sylvia got back from mike after she forwarded my memo saying that we should not yet announce his nomination or our intent to nominate him My memo said that some of his writings might be controversial that we hadnt finished reviewing them yet and that we werent prepared to start answering questions It seems to me thats still the right answer kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein could we talk about title ix policy initiatives on Monday I talked with greenberger et al on friday and would like to bring you uptodate so we can proceed on thisdo you also want nicole working on this kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamRKincaidcNWilliamRKincaid what does emily want us to do on the worker training document she gave us what exactly is it anyway kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna could you get me a copy thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BeverlyGodwinBeverlyGodwinnprgsagov anytime why dont you give me a call monday kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,CynthiaARice Could one of you send me an email telling me 1 what the moe requirements for the contingency fund are and 2 how the nga wants to change them I was trying to write an entry for the weekly on the governors bifurcation letter and realized I didnt have this necessary information Thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 JamesJJukes I think we should substitute First Amendment for Bill of Rights in both the second and third sentences in light of our support for the victims Rights Amendment which does amend the Bill of Rights kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,JenniferLKlein At the residence meeting last week the President talked about a proposal of some kind to give a deduction to businesses running child care centers at a loss He said theres paper about this around somewhere Could one of you find out what hes talking about and try to get all available kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro,JoseCerda lets be sure to talk Monday kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed then it will be a onesided conversation kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,BruceNReed Perhaps Im wrong we do seem to keep revisiting this question but I thought we were waiting for Mary to come in and pick up the domestic violence project I dont want to assign it unless for some reason weve decided not to follow that course kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed could you remember to send me over Chriss ideas 9n where to spend the moneythanks kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro,BruceNReed,JoseCerda I suspect Jose has already asked you but could you get your hands on the immigration study in this weekends papers and write up a short description probably just for the weekly unless you think that wont do it justice for the President Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson looks great kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamRKincaid call her yes bromberg thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,LeanneAShimabukuro,BruceNReed,MichelleCrisci sounds right to me we should talk some more about what ultimately should go into the drug testing report but your description makes it clear that we should not issue it this week kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice could you send me a copy of whatever you have from cea on displacement many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein ok can we do around 530 kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews we are getting answers on these questions ill let you know asap kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein hmm what did i ask kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna not necessary kagan 00-00-0000 EllenSSeidman I agree with you re hhs Whats the timing on getting up the SAP Have you spoken with Peter lately kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda what is it kagan 00-00-0000 EllenSSeidman WHAT issue kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro,JoseCerda Could one of you poke around and figure out where we are on our ostensible 4state pilot program We shouldnt let this one slip through the cracks Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson youre absolutely right thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein,BruceNReed,ElizabethDrye,ChristopherCJennings In line with our discussion this morning we should also think about whether further action on human research is warranted Sen Glenn has a bill applying the protections now used in federally funded or regulated research to ALL research Elizabeth thinks this might be a good time to send that bill around for agency comment And a recent NYT article on the subject suggested that some changes in requirements for institutional review boards might be in orderApparently Shays just conducted a hearing on this issue and expressed some amazement about how easy it is for a researcher to shop for an IRB that will support her experiment kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamRKincaidcNWilliamRKincaid not at all i thought she would be contacting you werejust being hypercooperative nowthanks kagan 20-MAY-1997 LauraEmmett lets set this up kagan 20-MAY-1997 lets set this up kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie I had a good time althogh it felt very short And they did ask me a couple of great questions kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,JonathanPrince,CathyRMays ditto Brucewhoever heard of an agency responding so quickly to anything kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print these thanks kagan 00-00-0000 please print these thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste I think its a good idea to talk though I suspect that our idea of strategy will not be their idea of strategy kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr I hope I wont be at work but Ill be eminently reaachable kagan 00-00-0000 JayKFootlik please give them straight to brian coyne of the SSAthanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice yes please write that one up thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein I think we should touh base and see what ideas they have kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett thats ok set up something on a day when im clear kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg well get you a tobacco paragraph within the hour kagan 00-00-0000 DRYE_E could you take care of this Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you take care of this Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LynnGCutler Ive asked elizabeth drye to send you something but we dont have much kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDryeElizabethDrye great kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyiin response to your question kagan 00-00-0000 fyiin response to your question kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed For you of course they would kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein yes were supposed to wait for her to talk to leadership staff kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,CynthiaARice where are we on these I know i missed a meeting last week Diana you asked me after that meeting about grandfathering waivers and said youd kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,CynthiaARice,LauraEmmett,JenniferLKlein yes lets do this kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna Great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna thanks kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews Its going to be on either Tuesday or Thursday We have some hopes that it will be a productive meeting As you know both we and HHS have indicated to Waters that we have serious policy concerns with her welfaregrandmothers amendment In response her staff has asked whether we are interested in discussing other approaches or initiatives for supporting this groupWe have responded very positively it would be great if we could do something else for her in this rea rather than just reject her proposal kagan 00-00-0000 SandersDKorenman sorry not to get back to you until now this is terrific lets talk on monday kagan 00-00-0000 JamesTEdmonds,MichaelWaldman from Thurgood Marshall Unless our children begin to learn together there is little hope that our people will ever learn to live together kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett yes kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,BruceNReed The powers that be have decided to talk about Mars at Girls Nation We will talk about service at Boys Nation Ann Lewis said something at the morning meeting about checking whether Americorps legislation would be ready I take it she means the reauthorization bill will it kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda absolutely nonesorry kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson yes thats good kagan 00-00-0000 MichelleCrisci not rude at all no problem kagan 00-00-0000 JamesTEdmonds,MichaelWaldman,BruceNReed,MichaelCohen Im sure youre already on your fifth draft by now but I managed to read the first one last night Its quite good Here are some comments in no particular order kagan 00-00-0000 RFC822headers Received from conversionpmdfeopgov by PMDFEOPGOV PMDF V504 6879 kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda you know about this yes to me by the end of the day methinks kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFWalker were working kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen I think its great AIld I like the charter schools graf Your call kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Please try to find chris edley he should be wandering around washington somewhere i take it he has a pager and figure out a way to get him the attached memo Tell him wed like to get it into the President today but want to know if he has any suggestions He should page me THIS MORNING if he does Also tell him I said to thank him for sending me a copy of his memo which I very much liked kagan 00-00-0000 JamesTEdmonds,MichaelWaldman,BruceNReed,MichaelCohen Could we also mention in the part of the speech that lists the things we need to make standards work ways to hold schools accountable eg by taking over failing schools andor transforming them into charters We probably should mention here that Rosa Parks is trying to start a charter school in Detroit kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews you bet kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett AM kagan 00-00-0000 AM kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda you didn send it kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda i just saw it thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AngeliquePirozzi id love to kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,JohnPodesta,ChristaRobinson,RahmIEmanuel,SylviaMMathews,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett The FOP refused to attend our meeting with Reno and Rubin today on Brady because of our failure to make a decision on the secret service question weve let this go on too long we need to give an answer regardless what it is Laura will schedule a meeting so we can discuss next steps kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye,BruceNReed Please get a qa to press thanks kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamRKincaid,LauraEmmett,MichaelCohen Billwhile were telling him about california we should also let him know whats going on in texas thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed ladeeda kagan 00-00-0000 ladeeda kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock fyi kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamRKincaid sounds right could you 1 get hold of the draft report and 2 write a new set of talking points I will also call a meeting on this subject soon kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein,ChristopherCJennings,BruceNReed chris and jen id love to do this health disparities stuff as our next race event on auf 15 or whenever the next opportunity is Can the two of you push on it figure out where hhs is press toward developing some concrete announcementsaction plans for how to reduce the disparities etc Check in with Melissa in addition to the policy people she was quite interested in this project Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 chris and jen id love to do this health disparities stuff as our next race event on auf 15 or whenever the next opportunity is Can the two of you push on it figure out where hhs is press toward developing some concrete announcementsaction plans for how to reduce the disparities etc Check in with Melissa in addition to the policy people she was quite interested in this project Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna yes which meant that I did not a thing on it last week lets talk about it soon though welcome back kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi i agree with ED on all counts kagan 00-00-0000 fyi i agree with ED on all counts kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein I agree with that approach I forgot all about the child care conference why not announce it kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda could you find out what this is about it may be just a meeting about the legal principles involved for use in other regulatory areas but check thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you find out what this is about it may be just a meeting about the legal principles involved for use in other regulatory areas but check thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye yes lets draft some specific language on the first two points go as far as we can on cessation I think On air quality generally Im sure youre right Is it possible though that he could make some general reference to this in his remarks kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamRKincaid thanks ask laura to send you my edited version kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews I changed it a bit so you should be receiving a new version soon kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed wheres this from im not able to print your email in a format that I can use kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna whats my answer to this question kagan 00-00-0000 whats my answer to this question kagan 00-00-0000 WEINSTEIN where are we on this kagan 00-00-0000 LauraKCapps not a problem at all but you should warn him that there are lots of them and that they involve a level of detail that I hope he will never have to master kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett,BruceNReed could you send this to the whole staff with a note that they should email me any ideas thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you send this to the whole staff with a note that they should email me any ideas thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen chicago too right wow kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett none kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye aok kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed good I asjed jack about this and he said levin hadnt brought it up kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice do you have a copy kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice 1 How many people are now on the rolls kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg Please do a short cover memo to put on top of the informational memo we gave the President a month or so ago If I could see it by midafternoon that would be great Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelWaldman Its very beautiful And I think you have the themes exactly right a deeprooted belief in the dignity of every individual as much a part of his personality as of his jurisprudence and a commitment to the Constitution as a living charter of freedom Perhaps the only thing Id add is an unshakable determination to protect the underdog the people whom no one else will protect etc kagan 00-00-0000 JamesTEdmonds,MichaelWaldman,BruceNReed,MichaelCohen Im sure youre already on your fifth draft by now but I managed to read the first one last night Its quite good Here are some comments in no kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelWaldman I hope cynthia has sent you this already but if not we recommend adding something like as the law I signed went into full effect in every state You may also want to make a slight change in the next sentence so that it all reads right together Many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JamesTEdmonds,Michaelwaldman from Thurgood Marshall Unless our children begin to learn together there is little hope that our people will ever learn to live together kagan 00-00-0000 JamesTEdmonds,MichaelWaldman,MichaelCohen Could we also mention in the part of tpe speech that lists the things we need to make standards work ways to hold schools accountable eg by taking over failing schools andor transforming them into charters We probably should mention here that Rosaparks is trying to start a charter school in Detroit kagan 00-00-0000 KrisMBalderston,MichaelCohen,AnnFLewis We are in a fight for our lives on the testing initiative with Congress likely to vote in early September to prohibit the use of federal funds for the test We cannot waste Sept 8 on a sweetnessandlight literacy event Were all going to have to work together to make this problem disappear Lets talk about how best to do so Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis great thanks ann kagan 00-00-0000 JamesADorskind I think thats right Sorry for not responding earlier kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman deinite left handright hand problems Oh well Given that they didnt inform us kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice They look good sorry i didnt let you know before kagan 00-00-0000 SarahSKnight chris will be back monday please show this tohim kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste,SylviaMMathews,MichelleCrisci,JohnPodesta,ChristaRobinson,BruceNReed,JoseCerda The last time we spoke about this issue we planned for Erskine to host a meeting with Gil Gallegos The problem now is that Gallegos is furious with us and wont do this meeting He just won reelection by a very small margin after a campaign in which he took a lot of grief for his relationship with us I recommend getting a decision on this issue now without a meeting We can have a decision memo for Erskine or anyone else this week Agreed kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice what did bruce say about this kagan 00-00-0000 WEINSTEIN where are we on this kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamRKincaid,MichaelCohen Have the ed people gotten the test etc Where are we on this kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson Is this on did we ever submit a scheduling request Much as I want this decision Im a bit leery of doing it this way Call me kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen Your to do list on standards looks great I think we should bring mickey kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman get a resume and bring him by thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MikeSmithMikeSmithedgov Youre right I hope you think the new draft of the letter is better kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman thats fine thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen Fine kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice ok thanks kagan 00-00-0000 KrisMBalderston no its on sorry you didnt get the other message kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan Food Safety As noted in the DPC weekly USDA is currently working on food safety legislation that would give the Secretary of Agriculture the authority to recall contaminated food and to assess civil penalties for noncompliance with safety standards USDA should have the legislation ready by next Tuesday Secretary Glickman and perhaps the Vice President will announce the new legislation next week They will also call for full funding of our food safety initiative in the Agriculture appropriations bill the current version of that bill is now about 4 million short of our request kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro thank yougood work kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna No I think we should do it send it to me kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMPalmieri you bet kagan 00-00-0000 GeorgePhillipsGeorgePhillipsjusticeusdojgov modern technology doesnt always work something went wrong in the transmission of the document and all i got was gobbledygook Could you fax it to 4562878 thanks kagan 00-00-0000 GeorgePhillipsGeorgePhillipsjusticeusdojgov Absolutely Sorry I forgot to call you kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain Say what first thing ive heard about it which paper kagan 00-00-0000 FredDuval Yes I think thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman I will personally murder you if you suggest this to anyone kagan 00-00-0000 DemondTMartin not dpcsorry kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain In fact yes Id love to kagan 00-00-0000 JeroldRMande yes does she know kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,EstelaMendoza could you take care of this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you take care of this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Laura could you get a hard copy of the attached on White House letterhead to Andrew Mayock Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro fine with me but we should check the draft kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock here it is kagan 00-00-0000 CliffordJGabriel Its about Mr Goodlings amendment to prevent us from using any funds to develop national reading and math tests I dont have a copy of the latest version you can get it from staff sceretary or mike cohen kagan 00-00-0000 DemondTMartin That was from DPC not Agriculture Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CliffordJGabriel The staff secretary was in charge of circulation as always kagan 00-00-0000 DemondTMartin hereS the dpc entry kagan 00-00-0000 JeroldRMande Just do it kagan 00-00-0000 MinyonMoore other than that theyre a great idea kagan 00-00-0000 WEINSTEIN I never got a chance to speak with her though she tried calling a couple of times If you speak with her this week pass on my apologies and say Ill be back next week Many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith Mary did bruce really say for maria to do this why kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta Im going to be away next week so youre on your honor to 1 call seth waxman and 2 check in with erskine on how he wants to handle the secret service unionization issue kagan 00-00-0000 JeroldRMande I should have asked you this last week but kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna You should give Bruce the note you gave me and make sure he knows what were up to on this issue Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Tobacco documents as explained in the note I left on your chair kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna write a supplemental note to the presidentthanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed installment one kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett could you print all this out thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you print all this out thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna great thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed i n s t a l l m e n t21 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE0 00000000 kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman were disinviting them it will just be a white house meeting so dont say anything kagan 00-00-0000 CliffordJGabriel you should come sorry we forgot to ask kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg there is no policy and no decision i was as surprised by the NYT as youcall me kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen you should have it on your schedule already were ahead of you over here kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan,MichelleCrisci,SuzanneDale,MariaEchaveste,BruceNReed,JonathanAKaplan,RahmIEmanuel,MickeyIbarra,MarjorieTarmey,joshi_mjoshi_ma1cdlngtwy,RussellWHorwitz Im glad to know DPC is in such august company kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan what did they threaten to do to you kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg I think its leaning that way but yes kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr a bit old isnt this kagan 00-00-0000 MikeSmithMikeSmithedgov,MichaelCohen MikeThe President has expressed a strong interest in this We should meet on MondayIll have someone set itup kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen no kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print for me kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes Julie I thought I asked for you to run any suggested changes through me kagan 00-00-0000 ToddASummers great good work kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print the attached chart kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed please print the attached chart kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferFriedman Oh Whats the difference between doubling the setaside and doubling the slots ie how much more does the former cost and what more do you get from doing it kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferFriedman Is it your understanding that DPC NEC and OMB have now agreed to 5 in the meeting in Franks office kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein seems a bit skimpy can we get it up a little kagan 00-00-0000 JordanTamagni to be decided on friday kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein oh then it sounds ok do you agree kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock yes and yes kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna how did it go kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes not unless you think i should thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson,BruceNReed I vote for trying to do this if chris is willing and able kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda yes kagan 00-00-0000 DawnMChirwa,WilliamRKincaidcNwilliamRKincaid I did finally manage to look at this you and bill and i should talk kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice we should see their paper first that seems the courteous thing to do kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed ill give you the background whenever you want kagan 00-00-0000 ill give you the background whenever you want kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings magnificent kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes It sounds as if this is an enforcement action you cannot talk with INS before clearing it with counsels office kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,JulieAFernandes,CathyRMays Looks good to me but 1 I think the Americorps glossery should go up front so that he knows what Young Heroes CityYear etc are as hes reading the options 2 do we really need to give him 11 options arent the first five enough and 3 I dont think white and black are capitalized kagan 8-JAN-1998 Ok Dont forget the second half of your assignment is yo get riley to say the words no social promotions kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes ask jonathan orszag to ask gene whether he thinks this would be a good idea kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes probably not a note to you is on the way kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen youre the best kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes Have you talked with nec about this are they fine with doing it at all kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamHWhiteJr,DianaFortuna,JenniferLKlein Not that I particularly want to have a meeting ever I have to say that these advocates should work on their phone manner but next week is better than this one kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes Ill look it over and call Deich thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,DianaFortuna,EmilEParker,BruceNReed,AndreaKane,EmilyBromberg sounds generally ok though I would say that well work with Congress on legislation rather than send it ourselves kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice I agree kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta,SaraMLatham Nothing ventured nothing gained Lets go for it And thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock Hope this is what youre looking for kagan 00-00-0000 SallyKatzen I have and didnt get far He is very reluctant to change the legislative terminology in a way that could be taken to indicate greater acceptance of extramarital births I tried pretty hard and just couldnt move him But its prfectly possible that you or Gene could kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed gee upstaged already kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed just what I was thinking kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed good kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,BruceNReed yes kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,BruceNReed the ed flexreport cardsfailing schools message sounds good to me on tests werent we going to do engler kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda that is a great shame kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,BruceNReed You should get counsels office involved there are sure to be sticky constitutional questions ps why do we need free equipment for anyone theyre getting 675 million surely they can spend some of that to buy screening software kagan 00-00-0000 AnnaMBriatico what is this and why havent i seen it kagan 00-00-0000 LuciaAWyman I just talked to HHS and think we should defer to them Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice looks good to me kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,CathyRMays see below mike and I will both be out Can you go kagan 00-00-0000 see below mike and I will both be out Can you go kagan 00-00-0000 EleanorSParker see below mike and I will both be out Can you go kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg i 11tellhim kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman could you do an entry for the weekly on the directive thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings in addition to anything else you have please do entries as Im sure you would anyway on each of next weeks announcementsevents childrens health quality and racehealth Also do we need to fill him on the Missouri situation do you want to say anything about his upcoming meeting with the medicare commission And did we ever get him an answer to his question on malaria hes now asked about this subject twice Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda ok but run the language by us kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg Im out tomorrow too traveling with the POTUS Well try to figure something out maybe Bruce will go himself kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen coverdale singlesex update anything else kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda good change make sure it gets made thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoshuaGotbaum funnyi had no idea i had tasked todd to do this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda good change make sure it gets made thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoshuaGotbaum funnyi had no idea i had tasked todd to do this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 please print kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed OK im just going to say it again it is absurd that he is doing this and that people think he is doing it on our behalf He is not the one who should be talking with HHS leg congress etc re these issues Cynthia is And someone has to tell him that kagan 00-00-0000 OK im just going to say it again it is absurd that he is doing this and that people think he is doing it on our behalf He is not the one who should be talking with HHS leg congress etc re these issues Cynthia is And someone has to tell him that kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed yep kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr nope you should find out before you go kagan 00-00-0000 nope you should find out before you go kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes get a new version from them as soon as they have one kagan 00-00-0000 JakeSiewert i did thanks kagan 00-00-0000 i did thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 LoriLAnderson please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett could you do this kagan 00-00-0000 could you do this kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes sounds good kagan 00-00-0000 sounds good kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Im glad she did but how did she end up with this kagan 00-00-0000 Im glad she did but how did she end up with this kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed ignore kagan 00-00-0000 ignore kagan 00-00-0000 KarenTramontano im viewless is this just on hold right now kagan 00-00-0000 im viewless is this just on hold right now kagan 00-00-0000 JeroldRMande for those of us who are computer illiterate could you get me a copy of the jeffords bill thanks kagan 00-00-0000 for those of us who are computer illiterate could you get me a copy of the jeffords bill thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman i disagree pretty strongly kagan 00-00-0000 i disagree pretty strongly kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice looks great kagan 00-00-0000 looks great kagan 00-00-0000 JeroldRMande im all in favor of this as long as but only as long as rich tarplin agrees let me know kagan 00-00-0000 im all in favor of this as long as but only as long as rich tarplin agrees let me know kagan 00-00-0000 LuciaAWyman,RachelELevinson,ThomasLFreedman,JeroldRMande yes lets meet friday when rachel gets back Jerry or tom could you set this up Laura isnt here for the rest of the week thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice sounds good why dont you and Cynthia take a crack at 2 and 3 I dont think 1 is quite right though its close We should make clear what the key goal is reducing kids smoking stress the price increase the most and stick with our five principles Relatedly we shouldnt so elevate secondhand smoke kagan 00-00-0000 sounds good why dont you and Cynthia take a crack at 2 and 3 I dont think 1 is quite right though its close We should make clear what the key goal is reducing kids smoking stress the price increase the most and stick with our five principles Relatedly we shouldnt so elevate secondhand smoke kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed yes youre right Lauras out so can you set up a meeting on FDA jurisdiction for later this week OHara will know who to bring from HHS we should also make sure OVP OMB and DOJ are represented kagan 00-00-0000 CeciliaERouse were usually not organized enough to spare the president from reading the same thing twice but youre right we should be it would be great if you put it in your report kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice Q Would an indictment of tobacco industry executives decrease the chance of Congress passing comprehensive tobacco legislation kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv you bet kagan 00-00-0000 DawnLSmalls 11 is best 130 is OK 230 is impossible Im answeing for Bruce also kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,MaryLSmith,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice what if anything have we done about this my view is that we should never allow consultations on tobacco legislation to take place without white house participation kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides,MinyonMoore,JulieAFernandes Richard I would think that we need to check with OMB about the proposals to fund a study and to improve statistical data Otherwise it looks fine kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes,DianaFortuna,CynthiaARice I dont see why we should have a problem with any of this am i missing something kagan 00-00-0000 IngridMSchroeder could you get the antitrust letter to barry when its done thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you get the antitrust letter to barry when its done thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed you are so right a way out of womens history kagan 00-00-0000 DawnLSmalls rahrn kagan 00-00-0000 LisaJLevin sure anytime im not sure what executive memorandums weve sent lately but even if theres not one maybe people would be interested to find out where we are on tobacco kagan 00-00-0000 StevenMMertens,JulieAFernandes sorry i didnt get to this before nowI strongly agree with you on the organization and agree but dont care very much on the format kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes just to check whether someone owes child support why kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice yes kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice good kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed,DianaFortuna yes i think thats a good idea but as you say it should be carefully worded dont lean kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,IngridMSchroeder ingrid did you send barry the dewine letter and cynthia could you send barry the mccain letter thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ingrid did you send barry the dewine letter and cynthia could you send barry the mccain letter thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste i will if you will kagan 00-00-0000 i will if you will kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna yes youre right kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes i dont see how we can object to something that will improve child support enforcement on administrative burden grounds kagan 00-00-0000 IngridMSchroeder id like to get it out of there tell them that were very sensitive to timing issues on all tobaccorelated documents and they cant make changes in timing without informing us ie tell them to get it up today kagan 00-00-0000 AridreaKane,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice Sally Katzen told me on thursday that nec is putting together a working group on workforce development issues to be run by their new person Cecilia I told sally we would want to participate andrea do you want to do this kagan 00-00-0000 JeroldRMande,ThomasLFreedman,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice yes call the leg affs person that tom and i met with she told us to call her whenevr we had any questions about anything i forget her name but perhaps tom doesnt kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes sounds right it seems to me we should send up a generally supportive sap if necessary we can include some language about working with congress on specifics of implementation kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,MaryLSmith,CynthiaARice whatever happened to this kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,JoseCerda did you get my note on this what do you think kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice when is dol going to be ready to issue welfaretowork competitive grants kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi i asked him to head up this effort speaking of things chris can do for us have you had your meeting with westmoreland yet kagan 00-00-0000 fyi i asked him to head up this effort speaking of things chris can do for us have you had your meeting with westmoreland yet kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice you bet kagan 00-00-0000 WendyATaylor youre great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 EMPLOYMENT,virginiaNRustique looks fine except that the meetings with conrad and fazio should be with their whole task forces kagan 00-00-0000 VirginiaNRustique good idea we will kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv yes i will kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed something to think about once you get done with the memo for the president thanks kagan 00-00-0000 something to think about once you get done with the memo for the president thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,BruceNReed youre right she does kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,BruceNReed Im not in favor of a wh conference until we figure out to something to say there kagan 00-00-0000 JeffreyAShesol great job my only suggestion to make clear that the bill is being introduced in the Senate today to try to give this event some semblance of news value thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg w illdo kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna sounds as if youve done all you can for now thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 sounds as if youve done all you can for now thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice you know youre in trouble when people say things like lets please try to you kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please put on sxhedule kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg It sounds as if we should be thanking you We really do appreciate your patience today kagan 00-00-0000 It sounds as if we should be thanking you We really do appreciate your patience today kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein,MariaEchaveste jen we should talk about doing a weekly or biweekly meeting that addresses legislative strategy communications outreach and least important substance elena kagan 00-00-0000 jen we should talk about doing a weekly or biweekly meeting that addresses legislative strategy communications outreach and least important substance elena kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman where are we on these kagan 00-00-0000 JeroldRMande what happened to this meeting amything else I should know about whats the most recent legislative gossip kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi i went to the meeting last week and pushed for some significant reforms in our bilingual ed program apparently riley is backtracking from the 3year approach right now hes at threeyears with an escape hatch which I dont think is bad but his staff doesnt even like that so its hard to know where hell come out mike is supposed to be drafting a memo from you and riley to the prsident on 1 options on unz and 2 options on reforms to the federal bilingual ed program let me know if you have any thoughts kagan 00-00-0000 fyi i went to the meeting last week and pushed for some significant reforms in our bilingual ed program apparently riley is backtracking from the 3year approach right now hes at threeyears with an escape hatch which I dont think is bad but his staff doesnt even like that so its hard to know where hell come out mike is supposed to be drafting a memo from you and riley to the prsident on 1 options on unz and 2 options on reforms to the federal bilingual ed program let me know if you have any thoughts kagan 00-00-0000 ElenaKagan fyi i went to the meeting last week and pushed for some significant reforms in our bilingual ed program apparently riley is backtracking from the 3year approach right now hes at threeyears with an escape hatch which I dont think is bad but his staff doesnt even like that so its hard to know where hell come out mike is supposed to be drafting a memo from you and riley to the prsident on 1 options on unz and 2 options on reforms to the federal bilingual ed program let me know if you have any thoughts kagan 00-00-0000 SallyKatzen Wed really appreciate being kept in the loop on regulatory reform matters You obviously know more about this than anyone but bruce and i both have some views and would like a chance to participate kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley,AudreyTHaynes,JanetMurguia,SarahABianchi,WilliamHWhiteJr,JenniferLKlein I agree that this is a serious issue Before we have a meeting can someone Barbara Chris first find out from NancyAnn where HCFA currently is on this Also do we have any history of making conscience clause exemptions in the context of administrative action kagan 00-00-0000 KarenAPopp,JoseCerda so what do the doj lawyers think on the 5 vs 2 question kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen did your memo on this ever go into the President did it come back out again can i get the final version thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes peter tells me that kennedy will propose a temporary 3year increase in the cap between you and me im for supporting his proposal but we should first have that meeting with the hightech crowd that dol wanted when is that going to happen kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,BruceNReed,ChristopherCJennings Karen Popp tells me that the AG is scheduled to make a final decision on this issue on FridayPopp also says that she got asked by a reporter from the Oregonian a couple of days whether the White House was preventing DOJ from ruling Popp says that the AG really wants to know what we think as a matter of policy before she makes any decision legal policy or otherwise But the AG is also feeling real pressure to get a letter up to Congress So what do we tell her kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice a little bit of a slap in the face isnt it kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fine it will force me to get this done kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed youshoulddoi tENTHUSIASTICALLY kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes,NeeraTanden more than a billion grab me tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna thanks a bunch sounds ok kagan 00-00-0000 ,BruceNReed I sylvia called to ask whether it could go in to the presient tonight i assured that it could kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Im sure theres loads of room for improvement edit away kagan 00-00-0000 RecordsManagementRecordsManagement Requestor Kagan Elena Requestor Phone 4565584 Requestor Pass Type WHS Appointment With Kagan Elena Appointment Room 217 Appointment Date 31898 Appointment Building Old Executive Office Building UNumber Comments kagan 00-00-0000 RecordsManagementRecordsManagement Requestor Kagan Elena Requestor phone 4565584 Requestor Pass Type WHS Appointment With Kagan Elena Appointment Room 217 Appointment Date 31798 Appointment Building old Executive Office Building UNumber Comments kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamHWhiteJrcNwilliamHWhiteJr Looks good I would take out the 4th paragraph beginning policy recommendations Its a kind of meaningless and much too long list The real or at least the comprehensible agenda is in the next paragraph if anything very important is missing from that paragraph you should just put it in Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 SandraThurman,MariaEchaveste,RichardSocarides,SylviaMMathews fyi all of that is consistent with what we told the president in our memo kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen hows it coming kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed i think we should have erskine do it kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,CynthiaARice could we figure out what kind of materials we should provide and when thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could we figure out what kind of materials we should provide and when thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AndreaKane,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett,CynthiaARice why dont you put what youve done in memo form thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,LauraEmmett,CynthiaARice ok i hate this letter kagan 00-00-0000 AudreyTHaynes you are a star thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro,JulieAFernandes,MichaelDeich,StevenMMertens,PeterGJacoby I think increasing visibility is a pretty bad idea and would need to be convinced otherwise what do other people think kagan 00-00-0000 MIRIAM Call me when you are done Laura 65565 kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv me or cynthia kagan 00-00-0000 IngridMSchroederphone3953883Fax3953109OfficeofManagementandBudge,BarryJToiv I think you should leave it like that kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain 1 I dont think were signing off on anything But 110 is from our budget and its awfully hard to complain too loudly about your own budget figures kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice thanks much youre great kagan 00-00-0000 ErskineBBowles,JasonSGoldberg Erskine kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice youre right i apologize kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg what do you think kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr Hmmmmmfrom Laura kagan 00-00-0000 ThurgoodMarshallJr Hmmmmmfrom Laura kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice here it is kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie Eli Ive asked Mike Cohen and Bob Shireman to call you They know more about the details kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Erskine will be at the meeting and wants either John or Sylvia and either you or me to come I assume that means you unless you tell me otherwise The VP might also be there although I cant imagine why he would want to kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen ok ill look at it tonight many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 RobertMShireman,MichaelCohen could you guys check in with Eli Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you guys check in with Eli Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen okey dokey kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen I think we could do this kind of thing let me read the memo and lets talk kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Do you think we give the drug treatment option short shrift by not even counting it as a fullfledged option HHS hates all the compromise approaches Why should we let its objections transform this approach into a nonoption option 1 ATTCREATIONTIMEDA TE000 00 0000 kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein still on hold kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie EK is out all weeksorry laura kagan 00-00-0000 IngridMSchroeder fyi Elena is gone all week kagan 00-00-0000 MelissaNBenton fyi Elena is out till Monday kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett PM kagan 00-00-0000 PM kagan 00-00-0000 IngridMSchroeder fyi EK is out till monday laura kagan 00-00-0000 MickeyIbarra thanks again kagan 00-00-0000 MickeyIbarra thanks again kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr yessss kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,CathyRMays,CynthiaDailard I actually think Ed Knight would be fine I think we should agree to that kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews,MichelleCrisci,JohnPodesta fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings,DanielNMendelson,robertjpelliccirobertjpelliccieoplngtwy yes kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJWeinsteinJr,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett Thats fine Laura please do this each week kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein thoughts kagan 00-00-0000 thoughts kagan 00-00-0000 ToddASummers Yes you should This is only a problem if we just dont have any time kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed please print kagan 00-00-0000 make sure chief of staffs office has thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AndreaKane yes kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr she told me i forget if she set a date kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett have you emailed me the full weekly yet kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 GENE reminder weekly due tomorrow at 1200 we can do over phone in morning try to call marchik and hilley kagan 00-00-0000 GENE reminder weekly due tomorrow at 1200 we can do over phone in morning try to call marchik and hilley kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed are you ok with this kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print now kagan 00-00-0000 SeethedistributionlistatthebottomofthismessageccSeethedistributionlistatthebottomofthismessageSubjectOptionspaper,JosephJMinarik please print now kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith,ThomasLFreedman fyi Laura kagan 00-00-0000 fyi Laura kagan 00-00-0000 RahmIEmanuel fyi Laura kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 MarthaFoley,ChristopherCJennings you bet chris will get you the memo as soon as hes done with it kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings,AnnFLewis,MarthaFoley Yes lets do it monday kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste yes of course i hope tonight kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock its going to be awfully crowded in the ward room kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 PeterRundlet you know i dont remember saying we needed counsels signoff on anything if anything comes to me Ill get back to you till then just ignore kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print for some reason i cant kagan 00-00-0000 ,MichaelDeich please print for some reason i cant kagan 00-00-0000 COMMENT AUTHOR Stephen I Holmquist OPERATOR Stephen I Holmquist COMMENT P R I N T E RFONT1 2P O I N TROMAN Draft 61998 kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please set upcheck with cathy kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,PeterGJacoby,BruceNReed,MichelleCrisci this hatchfeinsteintorricelli alliance is getting awfully bothersome kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett does it kagan 00-00-0000 does it kagan 00-00-0000 MorleyAWinograd,BroderickJohnson,JanetMurguia,BarbaraChow,KarenESkelton,LawrenceJStein,MariaEchaveste,TanyaEMartin,JonathanHSchnur Here it is at long last Because of the shortness of time I am giving this to staff secretary now for circulation If you want to suggest changes to the memo we should have a few hoursThanks kagan 00-00-0000 KarenESkelton,MorleyAWinograd,LawrenceJStein,BroderickJohnson,BarbaraChow,JanetMurguia,MariaEchaveste,TanyaEMartin,JonathanHSchnur sorry kagan 00-00-0000 Unableto convert ARMSEXT ATTACHD601MAIL404175475126 to ASCII kagan 00-00-0000 BroderickJohnson,MarjorieTarmey,MarthaFoley,JulieAFernandes,MinyonMoore,EdwardWCorreia,MariaEchaveste broderick is absolutely right no letters kagan 00-00-0000 MorleyAWinograd excellent a vote we didnt know we had kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings chirs I think we should put something about this in the DAILY that gets sent to the President It has to go in to staff secy by 300 so you should get it to me an hour or so earlier Also youre still doing the qa we talked about yes many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 zinningezinningeerolscominet did you get this kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran nothing today but probably a standalone tobacco memo kagan 00-00-0000 SarahRosen,CynthiaARice cynthia rice because of possible connection to tobacco kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran nothing today kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith ok kagan 00-00-0000 IngridMSchroeder FYI Elena is on vacation all this weekLaura Emmett kagan 00-00-0000 JocelynNeis Jocelyn Elena is out all this week on vacation but can you please cc me on any further meeting notices Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CharlesMBrain RFC822headers Received from conversionpmdfeopgov by PMDFEOPGOV PMDF V519 29131 kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings,SarahABianchi FYI Laura kagan 00-00-0000 FYI Laura kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes could you do some talking ponints and send them around thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JuneShih,CynthiaARice we have a directive to announce on industry documents call cynthia for details Otherwise assuming the state ags havent announced a settlement do the standard rap bash congress for not acting urge them to do so etc If the state ags have agreed on a settlement we should congratulate them and welcome the settlement but then say that the job is only partly done and that congress must now do its share to reach our youth smoking goals kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes FYI Laura kagan 00-00-0000 FYI Laura kagan 00-00-0000 FYI Laura kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett around all the time kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett around all the time kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan gotchafor the first time ever kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes aok kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed do you think one of us should go too or is this fine kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes what have you found out about what doj is doing with respect to this issue kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanHSchnur,BruceNReed Thanks for this memo its very helpful I agree with you on just about everything and think only options 13 make any sense Ill drop an email to jack making sure he knows of our interest in this subject and asking whether he has managed to get through to rivlin is sounds as if we should probably have another meeting shortly kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,MaryLSmith,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett Produce too I think What youre suggesting sounds right I suspect that after you do some groundwork we will have to hold a meeting at a higher level deputies andor principals to make a decision Id be surprised if USTR didnt put up a fight kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 GeneBSperling fyi kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelDeich,JulieAFernandes Tons better this draft looks great to me Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,ChristaRobinson,BruceNReed,ThomasLFreedman,LeanneAShimabukuro What about enhanced penalties for other than telemarketing crimes Whats in the federal code now and whats missing kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice when is doj going to decide on an appeal kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,BruceNReed Are any of the agencies pressing us to oppose this provision in conference do you have a sense that ustr and usda are already up on the hill lobbying against it kagan 00-00-0000 MichellePeterson you bet ive passed your name on to jose cerda whos running it for our shop it would be great if you would give him a call at 65568 kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett sounds fine to me kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein,NicoleRRabner,LauraEmmett,NeeraTanden,PeterGJacoby,CynthiaDailard agree with both jen and cynthia we should not be against this we should not take part in efforts to derail it kagan 00-00-0000 ElenaKagan agree with both jen and cynthia we should not be against this we should not take part in efforts to derail it kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste,PhillipCaplan,BruceNReed,JenniferLKlein I confess to feeling somewhat baffled by this an executive order on children saying what Im going to ask Jen to call Lynn to find out what she wants and why but I have to say that Id oppose an executive order on childrens lives We have many different initiatives that focus on children we have education policies child care polcies health kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,CynthiaARice Agree with both the general sentiment and the fallback position kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes,BruceNReed no reason to do this at least for now kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,BruceNReed,JenniferLKlein sounds right to me kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed actually if the fallback is necessary Id say A racially neutral criterion is permissible but only so long as there is That way you at least get the broad statement of admissibility standing by itself before the comma separate from the qualfiying phrase Not much of a difference but perhaps worthwhile kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein You offered first If you want delegate this project to cynthia daillard and tell ann were following up thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed sounds good kagan 00-00-0000 CharlesEKieffer,MarthaFoley,JacobJLew,SylviaMMathews,DanielNMendelson This is AOK with me kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed what do you think kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett schedule kagan 00-00-0000 schedule kagan 00-00-0000 LoriLAnderson schedule kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman my meeting schedule would make 300 better but if thats not possible well survive thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,ChristopherCJennings fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith have i seen it kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,BruceNReed tomplease hook up with janet get whatever info she has about the event and do the substantive briefing I need some time to look at it before we give it to erskine sorry kagan 00-00-0000 tomplease hook up with janet get whatever info she has about the event and do the substantive briefing I need some time to look at it before we give it to erskine sorry kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv it has now kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett what emotion was she seconding kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print i cant get the whole chart kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings do you know what this is kagan 00-00-0000 do you know what this is kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed could you guys have your talk about the race stuff before you leave i feel uncomfortable leaving this until you get back kagan 00-00-0000 could you guys have your talk about the race stuff before you leave i feel uncomfortable leaving this until you get back kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen up in the air kagan 00-00-0000 LeslieBernstein sure kagan 00-00-0000 JordanTamagni it did it was very funny kagan 00-00-0000 JordanTamagni what is this kagan 00-00-0000 JosephCFanaroff looks good kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,JoseCerda how are we doing on this kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen lets find a time to talk about this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 lets find a time to talk about this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 lets find a time to talk about this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 EdwardWCorreia Eddie have you had any further meetings where are we on all this kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,SallyKatzen,GeneBSperling I added a pargraph on abortion violence and a sentence to the introductory kagan 00-00-0000 MelissaGGreen I just sent this to gene and sally kagan 00-00-0000 SallyKatzen heres the memo you cant make it any longer and you have to return by the bridge meeting kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed See attached kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson is this new kagan 00-00-0000 SallyKatzen ok thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson no I dont think we should give this to people for now kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda could you figure out whats up thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you figure out whats up thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJWeinsteinJr when am i going to get the weekly kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed thats more than i thought it would be kagan 00-00-0000 thats more than i thought it would be kagan 00-00-0000 DanMarcus thats great well put you to use kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey fyi you should be able to get the two prior messages from this one kagan 00-00-0000 fyi you should be able to get the two prior messages from this one kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings,BruceNReed somehow the importance of all this is eluding me and i know that if we have to educate the public on what a totipotent cell is were in big trouble Im assuming that youre talking to neil and rachel about what we can expect from nbac tomorow and when let me or bruce know this afternoon kagan 00-00-0000 somehow the importance of all this is eluding me and i know that if we have to educate the public on what a totipotent cell is were in big trouble Im assuming that youre talking to neil and rachel about what we can expect from nbac tomorow and when let me or bruce know this afternoon kagan 00-00-0000 ElenaKagan somehow the importance of all this is eluding me and i know that if we have to educate the public on what a totipotent cell is were in big trouble Im assuming that youre talking to neil and rachel about what we can expect from nbac tomorow and when let me or bruce know this afternoon kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed so much for not being in the middle of this kagan 00-00-0000 so much for not being in the middle of this kagan 00-00-0000 jmojmomcllcom anything your call kagan 00-00-0000 AmyWeiss,HeatherMRiley,JenniferMPalmieri,BruceNReed,BeverlyJBarnes,LauraEmmett,BrendaMAnders sounds fine to me kagan 00-00-0000 jmojmomcllcom unfair I put the ball in your court kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,CathyRMays not me kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed dont give in kagan 00-00-0000 PaulEBegala,DouglasBSosnik tomorrow for NBAC announcement kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed excellent kagan 00-00-0000 excellent kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey and moreyou can also get Bruces message from this one kagan 00-00-0000 and moreyou can also get Bruces message from this one kagan 00-00-0000 EdwardWCorreia,JulieAFernandes,RobertNWeiner,MichaelCohen why dont we cochair kagan 00-00-0000 CarolineRFredrickson,LauraEmmett Yes thats fine Laura will set up some time with you me Lisa and Cynthia Rice kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE0 00000000 kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings it can wait thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings 1 what should we say if anything about varmuss testimony in the weekly kagan 00-00-0000 JulieAFernandes Ok but what can we do if the AG has no discretion under the law How did she even order temporary stays of deportation kagan 00-00-0000 MikeCohenmikec20904MikeCohenmikec20904yahoocom could you resend this monday morning thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherEdleyJredleyChristopherEdleyJredleylawharvardedu Thanks much July Lets have dinner sometime soon kagan 23-NOV-1998 CynthiaARice yes of course kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings see below kagan 00-00-0000 see below kagan 00-00-0000 RogerSBallentine You bet It will be great having you on board Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJWeinsteinJr thanks ill let you know if i run into difficulties again kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 ,,LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 ,LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett could you print this I cant get the numbers to line up kagan 00-00-0000 could you print this I cant get the numbers to line up kagan 00-00-0000 BradleyMCampbell,sarahabianchi,JenniferLKlein I dont know as much as you all but that sounds right to me kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed do you have a view kagan 00-00-0000 do you have a view kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen Can you do an item on the ucla charter school report the President asked about Of course you should put that report in context Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed here it is kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,BruceNReed I think B is by far the best in terms of message Rather than requiring us to make a case about tobacco company profits generally we would be saying only that tobacco companies shouldnt use the recent settlement as an opportunity to gouge consumers It seems as if this option also best responds to Rubins point about the sensitivity of the business community to excess profits taxes since its the most limited ie tobaccocompanyspecific in terms of rationale kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,MichaelCohen right Mike and I talked about this in the context of making Ed pay kagan 00-00-0000 wheres my charter schools item elena kagan 00-00-0000 AmyWeiss for release on sunday kagan 00-00-0000 PaulDGlastris,MichaelWaldman As I told Paul this memo is now in the hands of John P and Maria E We hope to give it to the POTUS later today Please kep this close and be aware that anything in it might change 1 ATTCREATIONTIMEDA TE000 00 0000 kagan 00-00-0000 Imm not sure I sent you the right one here it is kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen one hopes kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen nothing has gone yet heres the copy that phil has hes waiting for comments from john and maria I think kagan 00-00-0000 LynnGCutler I do have plans with some friends from outoftown Thanks very much kagan 00-00-0000 DonaldRArbuckle can you give me a date thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith they should NOT say anything kagan 00-00-0000 dbfdbfwiggincom sounds great when are you coming down happy new year to you too kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett not up to us ask omb kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 SarahABianchi Well look at the way this part of the speech is written but I think that theyre just referring here to the amount of the state settlement kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman please make sure to talk to mike and jose and have some options ready for this meeting Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 please make sure to talk to mike and jose and have some options ready for this meeting Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 HumaMAbedin please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 DavidRThomas Looks great except change you to your kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman among whom kagan 00-00-0000 SallyKatzen were putting together a memo on this now but you should feel very welcome to join us in the prebrief andor meeting kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed why is he trying to talk with Mike Smith It sounds as if Mike may share our views on this issue kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanHSchnur,PatriciaMEwing I talked with Bruce and he gives up kagan 00-00-0000 LynnGCutler I sent the message on to Chrishes the person in the best position to know what we canshould do in this area It seems to me like a good idea kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv fyi Elena is out today tomorrow Laura kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanHSchnur why dont you do up a whole set of qa todays teachers stuff ed flex and whatever else you think might come up Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed do we need stuff on edflex too where are the unions on that these days kagan 00-00-0000 CharlesMBrain Lets give this one to Jose Cerda on the ground that the closest thing to fire fighters is police officers kagan 00-00-0000 KarinKullman as chris will tell you weve decided to put someone on the panel to talk about the patients bill of rights kagan 00-00-0000 as chris will tell you weve decided to put someone on the panel to talk about the patients bill of rights kagan 00-00-0000 KarinKullman,BruceNReed please ask chris about this he was going to check with doug sosnik kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please arrange something kagan 00-00-0000 RobertBJohnson,LauraEmmett Of course Did you show frustration Was that after I left kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJweinsteinJr thanks we needed this kagan 00-00-0000 thanks we needed this kagan 00-00-0000 JeanneLambrew could you also send these to laura in the future thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you also send these to laura in the future thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste please print kagan 00-00-0000 EdwardWCorreia thanks chuck should set something up whenever he wants kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed I love this capital H Him kagan 00-00-0000 I love this capital H Him kagan 00-00-0000 DanMarcus You dont happen to have them do you kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,BruceNReed,LeanneAShimabukuro I think thats a great idea kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethRNewman I dont think theres any way the President will get asked about yesterdays verdict He may well get asked about losing the recoupment kagan 00-00-0000 DevorahRAdler is there some reason why this is formatted like this kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARiee great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 41844184 come by my ww office to get edited guidance when you come in for radio address elena kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda Im a little confused about what all the attached is please give me a call about it The VP is looking for something to do on Thursday and it might be good to have him make an announcement that helps us to rollout the crime bill But Im baffled about what Morley sent me kagan 00-00-0000 Im a little confused about what all the attached is please give me a call about it The VP is looking for something to do on Thursday and it might be good to have him make an announcement that helps us to rollout the crime bill But Im baffled about what Morley sent me kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice is there an event in here someplace kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherLBell can you go to this I have another meeting and I think this will primarily be about Medicare kagan 00-00-0000 can you go to this I have another meeting and I think this will primarily be about Medicare kagan 00-00-0000 CarolynTWu can you go to this I have another meeting and I think this will primarily be about Medicare kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain ooyou guys want to do this I asked Mary Smith of our staff to check in with David Beier before we put in any formal scheduling request It seems like a good event for the VP kagan 00-00-0000 FROM,ChristopherCJennings Can you go to this I have another meeting and I think this will primarily be about Medicare kagan 00-00-0000 Can you go to this I have another meeting and I think this will primarily be about Medicare kagan 00-00-0000 KarenTramontano Can you go to this I have another meeting and I think this will primarily be about Medicare kagan 00-00-0000 CarolynTWu Can you go to this I have another meeting and I think this will primarily be about Medicare kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings check out potus comment on antibiotics kagan 00-00-0000 KarinKullman,DevorahRAdler,BruceNReed,sarahabianchi,ChristopherCJennings i think well know better by the end of the day kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice sounds good kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi definitely some things to talk over here kagan 00-00-0000 fyi definitely some things to talk over here kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith,ThomasLFreedman looks good kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 SallyKatzen so you can do this from homehuh thanks for the chat this afternoon only 14 hours to gO kagan 00-00-0000 IreneBueno good thanks kagan 00-00-0000 IreneBueno is this our meeting ie do we get to run it kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,AndreaKane Lets do that Please get a good copy of the article ie not off lexus thanks kagan 00-00-0000 Lets do that Please get a good copy of the article ie not off lexus thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JanetMurguia Your brother If so congratulations kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice Next time Ill just leave it to you Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DevorahRAdler I never used your weekly item on organ allocation Could you and Chris kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings Are you planning to do a cover to Shalalas legacy memo I dont care just let me know kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,AndreaKane,CynthiaARice Oh no we must have given too much Just a joke kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings As you know i disagree with the thrust of this memo though i wouldnt object to the nothing in this act language Have we heard anything from HHS kagan 00-00-0000 JamesBoden As you know i disagree with the thrust of this memo though i wouldnt object to the nothing in this act language Have we heard anything from HHS kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 KarinKullman you bet kagan 00-00-0000 IreneBueno Absolutely no problem youre doing great Lets talk tomorow kagan 00-00-0000 RobertBJohnson Ben we would never have a meeting without you Also I think Bruce is going to be calling you this morning on this subject kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv we should have kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern didnt we get it toyou kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern the wjw piece was written specifically for the book which has a 1997 copyright kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner sounds good have laura set it up kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman could you deal with this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you deal with this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith,KarinKullman That sounds pretty good but she doesnt sound like a union member You should see if you can come up with a few options for Monday and then we can pick the best I talked to Ann Lewis and she agrees with me on my basic point ie that the panelist should demonstrate the compo woth problem not the comp worth legislative solution although she continues to want a union member kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 HumaMAbedin please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern OK OK OK Sorry kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith thats great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 thats great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett schedule kagan 00-00-0000 schedule kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta schedule kagan 00-00-0000 SaraMLatham schedule kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMLuray Thats great thanks much I am confident that both our reputations have survived kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan Thank you I know I liked the one I got kagan 00-00-0000 IreneBueno,BruceNReed,JonathanHSchnur The Ed letter isnt going to do the trick Your suggestion sounds fine but quite honestly so long as Justice is where Justice is on this issue Tracy is going to have a hard time just making it go away kagan 00-00-0000 EricSAngel sorry that was an aborted page I left a message on your voicemail Please give me a call this afternoon or weekend if you need me or if I can do anything to speed this process along You should NOT hesitate to tell me to do something over the weekend Have a good weekend yourself Elena kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain,SarahABianchi We should be ready to publish within a couple of weeks guidance on the issue of when someone counts as a public charge for immigration purposes The guidance is designed to ensure as far as possible that legal immigrants will not suffer adverse consequences if they apply for benefits eg Medicaid to which they are entitled The immigrant community will be very pleased with this guidance and the Vice President really should announce it kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,JoseCerda see attached I also had a talk with Chuck who thinks that doing the data directive alone is too weak and that we should pair it with somethings else Lets talk kagan 00-00-0000 see attached I also had a talk with Chuck who thinks that doing the data directive alone is too weak and that we should pair it with somethings else Lets talk kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherFEdleyJredleyChristopherFEdleyJredleylawharvard Jose is writing it nowIf you let us know precisely what you want and why we will be sure to include it Is that OK with yOU kagan 00-00-0000 SaraWilson dont do that yet I just made some more changes Let me put in your suggestion and send another kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,BruceNReed Todd repeated this to me just half an hour ago He really was very impressed kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings could you give me a hard copy for some reason I cant get into this documentthanks kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv yes you have this got this wrong we got two votes kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice Thats a much better response than I gave Barry I just told him we got two votes kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,NeeraTanden He really did Although we focused on the PG rating he did call for the industry to reevaluate its whole ratings system I think it would seem a bit weird to come out now with another specific suggestion for changing the system even though it makes perfect sense kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,CynthiaARice Im OK with all though the whatsoever strikes me as a bit over the top kagan 00-00-0000 Im OK with all though the whatsoever strikes me as a bit over the top kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlaln,BruceNReed Im the biggest fan of RFRA now RLPA in this building but you should not take this advice right now Youll have a gaylesbian firestorm on your handsAlternatively if you come out for a version of RFRA that has a civil rights carveout youll have a religious groups firestorm on your hands We had a meeting with the religious groups yesterday and are having a meeting with the gay groups Monday to see whether we can work out some kind of rapprochment sp Well let you know as soon as its safe to go back in the water kagan 00-00-0000 Im the biggest fan of RFRA now RLPA in this building but you should not take this advice right now Youll have a gaylesbian firestorm on your handsAlternatively if you come out for a version of RFRA that has a civil rights carveout youll have a religious groups firestorm on your hands We had a meeting with the religious groups yesterday and are having a meeting with the gay groups Monday to see whether we can work out some kind of rapprochment sp Well let you know as soon as its safe to go back in the water kagan 00-00-0000 EricSAngel thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 FredDuVal Thats great Thanks Fred kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed take a look kagan 00-00-0000 take a look kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed this is really unbelievable kagan 00-00-0000 this is really unbelievable kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett,LauraEmmett Grambling Briefing Paper kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern did chuck send you a response to this that Im missing kagan 00-00-0000 did chuck send you a response to this that Im missing kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed fyi I think chuck sent todd some kind of response without ccing us I just asked todd for it kagan 00-00-0000 fyi I think chuck sent todd some kind of response without ccing us I just asked todd for it kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice could you respond kagan 00-00-0000 could you respond kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print out all press paper kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv please print out all press paper kagan 00-00-0000 ElenaKagan please print out all press paper kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed butanother kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett pIs schedule kagan 00-00-0000 AntonyJBlinken pIs schedule kagan 00-00-0000 KarenTramontano what did he say kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern,BruceNReed youre far too nice kagan 00-00-0000 I think two kagan 00-00-0000 DavidRGoodfriend You and Neera seem to disagree on this Id appreciate it if youd check in with her kagan 00-00-0000 NeeraTanden dont they have this already kagan 00-00-0000 dont they have this already kagan 00-00-0000 DavidRGoodfriend I think we sent this down to you on friday afternoon kagan 00-00-0000 MelissaGGreen yep kagan 00-00-0000 picwpicwworldnetattnetinet Here is the return email for Elena Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed What fax is ppi thinking of mentioning this is Why instinct is to convince them that we dont get anything by highlighting this split kagan 00-00-0000 KarinKullman just bruce and chris unless cynthia already thinks shes going does she kagan 00-00-0000 IreneBueno,BruceNReed Mary Beth Cahill called me yesterday to complain that you werent including her staff in meetings you are having with immigration advocatesIndeed she thinks you are deliberately excluding her staff but I assume this isnt so Could you please make every effort to work cooperatively with Mary Beths office and make sure that her staff participates in all contacts and meetings they wish to Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 Mary Beth Cahill called me yesterday to complain that you werent including her staff in meetings you are having with immigration advocatesIndeed she thinks you are deliberately excluding her staff but I assume this isnt so Could you please make every effort to work cooperatively with Mary Beths office and make sure that her staff participates in all contacts and meetings they wish to Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda what is this and whats your worry kagan 00-00-0000 IreneBueno,BruceNReed no problem thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LawrenceJStein Were still working on this but I wanted to give you an advance look in case youre interested kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed this is great kagan 00-00-0000 this is great kagan 00-00-0000 CourtneyOGregoire June 4 1999 kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,LeanneAShimabukuro Now that I look at this more closely I think you should tell Eddie that this is exactly what the President decided NOT to do ie it is the Edley idea of a prohibtion on racebased stops with an exception designed to fit the INS kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanHSchnur yes kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanHSchnur sure but take what they say with a grain of salt kagan 00-00-0000 looks as if ill have to start doing some work kagan 00-00-0000 looks as if ill have to start doing some work kagan 00-00-0000 RecordsManagementRecordsManagement Requestor Kagan Elena Requestor Phone 4565584 Requestor Pass Type WHS Appointment With Kagan Elena Appointment Room 2FLWW Appointment Date 61599 Appointment Building White House UNurnber Comments kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides Nope Leaving this Friday Are you in Paris kagan 00-00-0000 I have to go pick up my car from the shop so will be hard to reach for the next few hours If you have a problem and you cant get me please make sure to get hold of Bruce Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Read this It seems to me really important that we not express a view on the merits ie on the question whether use of the sat by the ncaa is racially discriminatory given the fire were already under on our testing guidance Agree kagan 00-00-0000 PeterRundlet do you mean that correctly will be taken out of both sentences in that paragraph kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,JoseCerda what do you think kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,JoseCerda Heres the OLCapproved language on the Hyde amendment kagan 00-00-0000 ToddASummers Thanks a ton If you do get up to Cambridge please give me a call Ill be at the law school kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain yes thats good kagan 00-00-0000 kmorankmoranexchangeusiagov Thank you so much Cross your fingers so that it comes true kagan 00-00-0000 MelindaDHaskins Thanks a lot Keep your fingers crossed for me kagan 00-00-0000 SallyKatzen congratulations for becoming official kagan 00-00-0000 congratulations for becoming official kagan 00-00-0000 DenverRPeacock congratulations for becoming official kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed Is this your email address kagan 14-JUL-1995 JamesCastello Did you once tell me that you were having a brunch on Sunday for the staff Is that stil on If so when and where Am I using email correctly kagan 14-JUL-1995 MarnaEMadsen Is there someplace I can get a mouse pad kagan 17-JUL-1995 CherylDMills Thats at JR 12627 kagan 17-JUL-1995 CherylDMills Cheryl I missed this the first time around On March 1 Sessions and POTUS discuss the Bureaus proposed strategyy for handling the crlSlS Sessions described it as a waiting strategy under which the FBI would negotiate watch and contain kagan 18-JUL-1995 CherylDMills Melissa mentioned to me I am ashamed to say several days ago that in addition to the people listed on the document request you prepared you were going to send the request to several former employees who might have files relating to Lawrence who you might have seen made Al Kamens column this morning on an unrelated matter Who else should I send the request to Also I take it from what Terry Henry told me when we spoke that we havent yet received a valid subpoena Is that right kagan 17-JUL-1995 JamesCastello After you left George asked that a draft of the decision memo be circulated after the meeting he said that meant to Rasco Rovlin Griffin and him It seems to me that the way to go is to recommend that the President reject the bill because 1 it does not inlcude an exception for the health of the mother and 2 not stressed as much because it may apply to abortions that are done prior to the last trimester and prior to viability It sounds as if what George wants is for the President to take an upfront position that if narrowed in these two ways he would support it We should make clear because George didnt seem to understand it that such a bill would prevent abortions in cases of fetal deformity As weve discussed I think it would be hard to argue that such a position is unconstitutional ie I think OLCs third argument is weak The question that the participants in the meeting didnt realy focus on is what happens if the health exception is included but the bill continues to apply to previability as well as postviability abortions As a legal matter the question here has to do with whether this an undue burden A certain answer to this question would require lots of facts we dont know having to do with the circumstances in which this procedure could or could not be replaced by other procedures my hunch though is that the undue burden argument would be a stretch kagan 21-JUL-1995 AbnerJMikva I gave Cheri talking points This is just to let you know that I just had a conversation with Don Beattie Dingells legislative director in which I said basically what the talking points say and told him that you would be calling Dingell kagan 18-JUL-1995 JonYarowsky Just to let you know that I think I had a good and conciliatory conversation with Don Beattie to whom Alan Roth referred me and who seems like a very nice guy kagan 21-JUL-1995 AbnerJMikva Let me know when you want to talk about this It sounds really interesting kagan 21-JUL-1995 congratulations One down three to go kagan 18-JUL-1995 MarnaEMadsen The manual they use for training is fine The parking pass has not yet turned up Ill keep looking Thanks kagan 21-JUL-1995 AbnerJMikva Im sitiing on a number of speaking invitations everything from the Sidley Austin Summer Associate Speakers Program to a libel conference sponsored by the Libel Defense Resource Center and the Newspaper Association of America to a couple of academic conferences Are there any rules associated with such things if I dont take money and make clear that views expressed are only my own Are there any procedures I need to follow to get appearances approved etc kagan 20-JUL-1995 JamesCastello Sorry I didnt get back to you I was at the Waco hearing all day and night I actually think the old paragraph was better Heres why 1 Even under Roe I do not think courts would have automatically equated fetal deformities with harm to maternal health 2 The Schroeder bill also does not equate the two It seems to apply only when fetal deformity itself endangers womens health perhaps there is a presumption that this will always be the case but this presumption is not spelled out 3 Related to the above but more generally I think in this paragraph you equate the two too much For some women all fetal deformities will pose a threat to maternal health for other women some will kagan 21-JUL-1995 IanRVanPraagh I probably wont be able to make the meeting though Ill try Thanks kagan 22-JUL-1995 JonYarowsky,CherylDMills Late in the day BD lawyer Evans in response to a question by McCullum noted Jahns testimony that certain tapes reveal that the BDs were spreading fuel and preparing to set a fire as the gas was coming in Evans said Jahns description of the tapes was accurate and then asked why the FBI agents on the scene didnt hear the same thing and if they did hear it why they didnt react to it I had never heard this criticism before Unless this is a wholly absurd line of attack and maybe even if it is I wouldnt be surprised if some Republicans pick up on this in the next few days kagan 25-JUL-1995 IanRVanPraagh Though I missed the last choice meeting because of the Waco hearings Id love to be informed of future meetings Thanks much kagan 25-JUL-1995 AbnerJMikva So here are some ideas about how to keep me amused and also make some good use of me 1 Now that Chris Edley is leaving has left is there a need for someone to keep on top of the affirmative action issue for example by working with Justice on its review of all affirmative action programs I know the issue well kagan 26-JUL-1995 JonYarowsky,CherylDMills,JohnTanner A quick summary of yesterdays late night session The two made the case that Koresh was coming out soon that a major occurred on the 14th etc This testimony fit with the two earlier in the day and allowed Republicans to press the case that if only the FBI had waited all would have ended well The implication was that people in Washington exactly who was never made clear made the decision to go forward without knowing what those closer to the situation knew that a corner had been turned in the negotiations with Koresh The questioning of the Rangers was uneventful They effectively defused the controversy surrounding their conversations with Noble in part by pointing out that they had equally detailed conversations with Republican staff members in part by looking incorruptible They criticized some aspects of the operation and supported others in general no one got very much out of them All the members participated in a kind of contest as to who could suck up to them the Rangers more MOST IMPORTANT At one point out of the blue Buyer stated the following theory In April 1993 a new administration was going through some rough times kagan 31-JUL-1995 JamesCastello Gene said something to me about an executive order he had discussed with you Does that still need to be done or has it been assigned already kagan 29-JUL-1995 AbnerJMikva As you no doubt know by now the letter to Davis ended up going to Wilson as well Because of that decisionwhich Barry Toiv informed me of I took out some of the stuff early on that referred specifically to Davis Toiv put in the phrase in order to apply with all applicable law Emerson added the sentence saying that the Chief of Staff had instructed you to work with the UC system in solving any problemsJames and I discussed paging you on the golf course for this and decided not to Panetta read it and much to Toivs surprise changed nothing I think I do a fairly good Abner J Mikva signature kagan 31-JUL-1995 IanRVanPraagh yes ill be there kagan 31-JUL-1995 GeneBSperling James tells me he asked an OLC lawyer to work with you on your executive order If thats more than enough legal advice for you thats fine with me On the other hand if you want some more that would be great with me tooJust let me know what youre doing when youre meeting and what I should be reading I guess more generally Id love for you to keep me in mind and get me involved in some interesting things Whether its this or something else or this and something else Ill leave to you Talk to you soon kagan 1-AUG-1995 IanRVanPraagh the answers still yes kagan 1-AUG-1995 MarnaEMadsen yes i can come kagan 2-AUG-1995 ToddStern In case you ever doubted your own political judgment see p 16 of this weeks Time magazine kagan 4-AUG-1995 GeneBSperling FYI This executive order needs a fair bit of work The biggest problem is that there isnt right now a legally sufficient basis for the order stated in the introductory section That section talks a lot about how the order promotes health and safety and improves the environment all of which is very nice but legally irrelevant or at least incomplete Theres very little discussion of what there should be discussion of how the order relates whether through health and safety effects or otherwise to the procurement process and the efficiency of governmental contracting In addition the enforcement mechanisms in the order raise some questions But not to worry were on the case kagan 4-AUG-1995 JamesCastello Great introduction kagan 7-AUG-1995 GeneBSperling 1 I referred an AP reporterRon Fornier to you whom Ab had referred to me I decided that I didnt know enough about where this exec order was going to answer any questions about it Of course you might not know enough either but thats now your problem kagan 7-AUG-1995 KarenRGuss This looks great Just a couple of comments 1 The ban in fact does apply previability so perhaps the language you use kagan 8-AUG-1995 MarnaEMadsen no tv kagan 00-00-0000 OdettaSWalker none that I know of kagan 10-AUG-1995 ChristopherDCerf any day next week kagan 11-AUG-1995 JonYarowsky Ben Chevat called me I take it hes been trying to reach you too We tentatively agreed to get together sometime Tues or Wed to talk about militia stuff I think Tom will be on vaction He said they have some ideas which he thinks well like but that we have to work out the politics of the thing kagan 00-00-0000 KarenRGuss Looks great to me kagan 14-AUG-1995 IanRVanPraagh yes ill be there kagan 16-AUG-1995 CherylDMills 1 WANTTOHAVELUNCHTODAY 2 HOWA B O U TT H A TF U N D R A I S E R kagan 16-AUG-199514 CherylDMills Thanks for the legal advice Lets say Monday of next week for lunch kagan 22-AUG-1995 JamesCastello Re the Guss fax what legal opnion from HHS Re Ruby Ridge John is unreachable until this afternoon When he calls me back Ill set up a conference call for later in the afternoon or tomorrow morning As for staffing that is of course your call and nothing I said was meant to suggest otherwise Just let me know kagan 22-AUG-1995 JamesCastello Oh and whats the scoop on Vickys and my nonexistent assistant Isnt it possible for you to do something from that end with all the power of your title etc to get us someone kagan 23-AUG-1995 ToddStern when and where kagan 25-AUG-1995 TJGlauthier I hate being a pest Im sure you have tons to do But I was wondering whether to expect the materials that we discussed on this subject If not please let me know kagan 29-AUG-1995 CherylDMills,JonYarowsky With Jon Leibowitz and Vicky Settee at 200 Ill get a car kagan 31-AUG-1995 AbnerJMikva I talked to Kamarcks chief of staff who said 1 The report went to press today 2 The provision on attorneys fees ii a go it has been discussed with the kagan 30-AUG-1995 ToddStern Ive talked to one who said she wasnt interested Ive been playing telephone tag with the other Ill keep at it By the by I did return your call It sounds as if you didnt get my message kagan 31-AUG-1995 MarnaEMadsen Do you know whether theres a security briefing today If so where and what time Thanks kagan 7-SEP-1995 BarryJToiv Nancy McFadden didnt get back to me today Ill give her another call and let you know as soon as I hear anything kagan 12-SEP-1995 CharlesSKonigsberg This looks great Here are just a couple of comments 1 On several occasions you suggest that the emergency exception is the only exception to the general rule against obligating the govt in the absence of an appropriation But as I understand it there are a couple of others Most important activities essential to the Presidents constitutional role kagan 13-SEP-1995 CharlesSKonigsberg This is just to let you know that Bob Damus Chris Shrader and I did agree today that current law permits furloughed white house employees to volunteer as the testimony states kagan 13-SEP-1995 StephenRNeuwirth are also in the In Washington section of USA Today kagan 13-SEP-1995 AbnerJMikva FYI This has been taken care of to everyones satisfaction Mac has been so informed kagan 14-SEP-1995 JamesCastello FYI Theres nothing we need to do with respect to the reports of the Office of special Counsel you sent me this morning kagan 18-SEP-1995 IanRVanPraagh ok with me kagan 15-SEP-199513 JonYarowsky Were on for 300 on Monday in my office kagan 18-SEP-1995 AbnerJMikva,JamesCastello Teresa Roseborough from OLC called me to say that the Senate welfare bill you know the one we said on Saturday we would accept includes a provision denying benefits to any person who is not a naturalborn US citizen including naturalized US citizens OLC has opined that the provision is unconstitutional kagan 19-SEP-1995 JodieRTorkelson FYI Last week Senator Domenici and Congressman Kasich requested Director Rivlin to provide Congress with the shutdown plans of all Executive Branch agencies Appearing before the Budget Committees this morning Rivlin explained that the plans were not ready yet but indicated that she would provide them soon The White House plan did not specifically come up and I suspect no one will press for it None of the charts and tables that Rivlin provided to Congress this morning listed the EOP and no one commented on the exclusion But I suppose we should be prepared if Congress upon recelvlng all the agency plans asks for the EOPs as well Let me know if you have any thoughts about what to do in this event kagan 19-SEP-1995 StephenRNeuwirth You might want to take a look at a cgse called Church of Latter Day Saints v Amos Its been a long time since I read it but I believe the Court held that exempting a church from general Title VII requirements was permissible even though the requirements did not interefere with free exercise I dont remember the reasoning but it at least suggests that theres some category of permissible exemptions of religious institutions from generally applicable laws beyond whats strictly speaking necessary to accommodate religious requirements kagan 19-SEP-1995 JodieRTorkelson I tried to call you to say I was sorry I certainly hadnt meant to suggest kagan 21-SEP-1995 IngridMSchroeder Actually no need to send it I got the last few pages Just one question on the testimony Is there a reason why in several places on pp 67 the testimony makes reference only to race and not to gender kagan 21-SEP-1995 IngridMSchroeder This looks fine to me kagan 21-SEP-1995 IngridMSchroeder If you could just send the last three pages that would be great Thanks kagan 21-SEP-1995 IngridMSchroeder I seem to be missing some pages of LRM 2598 Mine is cut off at p 8 of the testimonyin the middle of a sentence Thanks much kagan 21-SEP-1995 IngridMSchroeder No other comments from me I dont know whether Chris has seen it His fax number is different from mine its 4562146 If you want me to check with him or to run over and give him my now markedup copy just let me know Thanks kagan 22-SEP-1995 StephenRNeuwirth A good new year kagan 23-SEP-1995 CherylDMills is 3321763 Ill be around for about 15 more minutes Feel free to call me at home kagan 26-SEP-1995 ChristopherDCerf OKThanks kagan 26-SEP-1995 DinahBear Many thanks for the detailed message I feel entirely uptodate Of course kagan 26-SEP-1995 ChristopherDCerf I meant to ask you whether youve discussed the militia proposal with Jennifer OConnor in the past week or so Ive had a call into her for some days and I was wondering whether she hasnt called me because she talked to you instead kagan 24-APR-1996 DeborahLFine The letter is OK kagan 24-APR-1996 MichaelAFitzpatrick I hear our veto threats dont mean much On another matter entirely could you send me a copy of the latest version of the Levin bill Many thanks kagan 24-APR-199613 StephenRNeuwirth On 1487 my signoff is for neuwirth kagan 24-APR-1996 StephenCWarnath Also could you send me the set of Administration material referred to in Carols 419 memo Thanks kagan 24-APR-1996 JanetMurguia What happened to it kagan 24-APR-1996 StephenRNeuwirth something to think about kagan 24-APR-1996 KathleenMWallman nows the time i tell you i want to do englishonly right kagan 26-APR-1996 MarthaFoley,DinahBear,RobertGDamus,ToddStern,TJGlauthier Ill check with Dellinger kagan 26-APR-1996 MarthaFoley Walter feels strongly we should not attempt to respond to the Hatfield colloquies He also thinks the signing statement should treat the provisions granting suspension authority as completely routine as a legal matter in line with this approach he does not want to add any special language kagan 26-APR-1996 DawnChirwa,ElisabethBlaug,KathleenAMcGinty You know Toms doing a takings meeting on Wednesday at 1030 in the CEQ conf room Also I cant make Tuesday But dont reschedule for me since Dawn can go kagan 26-APR-1996 MichaelAFitzpatrick Justareminder acopyplease kagan 27-APR-1996 PhillipMCaplan by the by I dont think it matters whether you call this a memorandum or a directive do whatever the clerk says is normally done for such things kagan 29-APR-1996 MichaelAFitzpatrick For some reason I didnt realize the levin bill had not yet been introduced Can I give it to someone outside the White House to be more specific to Cass Sunstein I mentioned the bill to him when I was in Chicago last week and he expressed interest in seeing it kagan 29-APR-1996 PhillipMCaplan No problem Whenever its convenient send me final documents Thanks kagan 29-APR-1996 KathleenMWallman I just got an LRM regarding a bill sponsored by susan molinari on among other things transracial adoption OMB says the bill may be considered by the House on May 8 I recall Chris Cerf once telling me that he had done some work on this issue about a year ago Did you reassign this issue to someone else when you split up Chriss portfolio If not do you want to reassign the issue now kagan 29-APR-1996 StephenRNeuwirth im presuming youll handle this Thanks 1 ATTCREATIONTIMEDA TE29APR199609240000 kagan 29-APR-1996 The Senate is scheduled to resume consideration of S 1664 illegal immigration today Monday 43096 OMB Apfel has prepared a letter to the Senate leadership commenting on potential amendments to the public benefits sections of the billThe letter was circulated under LRM4228 if you need another copy just let me know We need to clear this letter this morning and can not do so without your signoff Therefore please provide comments or your signoff ASAP 1 kagan 29-APR-1996 JenniferMOConnor,DinahBear 1 As Ive told both of you Jack has asked me to do an edit on the curent DOJ brief Id be grateful for your input No point is too big or too small If you want to mark up a draft and give it to me thats great If you want to make just a few general comments thats great too Id like your comments sometime tomorrow so I can get this under way as quickly as possible 2 And as Ive told Dinah we need to decide one of these days whether we wish to seek cert on the areas vs sales issue Jack is very much of the mind to defer to you guys if you want to seek cert even recognizing we wont get it hell argue the case to the SG Let me know kagan 29-APR-1996 OdettaSWalker sure kagan 30-APR-1996 McGavockDReed,DinahBear,MarthaFoley After reviewing the draft statent and talking to OLC Randy Moss because Dellinger wasnt in I suggest changing the second paragraph to read as follows kagan 30-APR-1996 DinahBear,MarthaFoley,RobertGDamus,CharlesEKieffer,JacobJLew,ToddStern My instinct is the exact same though we should see what Walter and Peter say kagan 30-APR-1996 ToddStern great where is asia nora kagan 30-APR-1996 KathleenMWhalen I wont do a thing consider this one to be all yours kagan 30-APR-1996 StephenRNeuwirth steve im assuming youll take care of the lrm on the dornan amendment kagan 30-APR-1996 ToddStern please dont send out the products veto message without letting me know are a couple of changes i need to make to it kagan 30-APR-1996 ToddStern Many thanks But Bruce beat you to it kagan 1-MAY-1996 ToddStern Would you forward that to both Bruce and Jack with a note saying that I asked you to You need not give it to Justice Theyve already seen it We know they hate it kagan 1-MAY-1996 OdettaSWalker sure as almost always kagan 1-MAY-1996 PeterJacoby,AnnMCattalini Attached is the latest draft of the veto statement As I said on the phone Bruce and I think that to the extent possible the language should come from that I am faxing you a hard copy of the statement indicating the most kagan 1-MAY-1996 1 kagan 1-MAY-1996 AnnMCattalini Great Please let me see a draft Thanks kagan 1-MAY-1996 ToddStern ive been picking victims im working on it now ill send you a new draft in about half an hour ok kagan 1-MAY-1996 looks fine to me and im answering for jack kagan 2-MAY-1996 OdettaSWalker anything anytime kagan 2-MAY-1996 ToddStern here it is kagan 2-MAY-1996 PRINTERFONT12 POINT COURIER To the House of Representatives kagan 3-MAY-1996 JeffPDailey I would delete the phrase in the interest of protecting manufacturers and sellersof harmful products We took the same phrase out of the veto message Other than that it looks fine though I suspect the President will actually want more detail kagan 3-MAY-1996 StephenRNeuwirth no this doesnt ring a bell ive been letting things pile up on my desk the last couple of days but if i come across anything ill let you know kagan 3-MAY-1996 DavidFein eeks forgot right kagan 3-MAY-1996 CarolynECleveland do you have copies of 1 the product liability veto message and 2 the product liability statement the President gave yesterday many many thanks kagan 3-MAY-1996 RonaldEJones ok kagan 3-MAY-1996 KathleenMWallman,DawnChirwa,PeterErichsen,DavidFein,CherylDMills,MiriamRNemetz,StephenRNeuwirth,SallyPaxton,RobertWSchroeder,JaneCSherburne,WendySWhite,JonYarowsky,KathleenMWhalen We will have five interns in our office from May 13 to June 30 and another five from July 1 to August 15 Kathy Whalen and I will soon be sending around their resumes We hope that as many of you as possible will agree to take at least one intern for at least one twoweek shift either alone or with another attorney If youd like an intern for longer well probably be glad to accommodate Please let me or Kathy know by next Wednesday what we can count on you to do And start saving projects now so we can keep them all busy kagan 3-MAY-1996 KathleenMWallman the lrms on these crime bills have come in to mehave you or dawn checked the bills out yet kagan 3-MAY-1996 RonaldEJones no kagan 3-MAY-1996 OdettaSWalker but of course lets talk later today kagan 3-MAY-1996 DavidFein Im having trouble finding the answer to your question Mike Fitzpatrick at OIRA will probably know the answer off the top of his head If that doesnt work come back to me kagan 3-MAY-1996 KathleenMWallman whatever happened to that faca issue do you want me to send the stuff you sent me back to you kagan 3-MAY-1996 OdettaSWalker oops sorry kathy please kagan 3-MAY-1996 KathleenMWallman I forgot to tell you that I approved the language Justice sent over kagan 3-MAY-1996 DavidFein Not IRA is that what I said OIRA In OMB 51247 Hes Sally Katzens special assistant kagan 6-MAY-1996 JeffPDailey Id send some version of the basic products letter to lerach though you should try to modify the first couple of sentences to make it seem an apt response to his letter On this one ie to a supporter you can take out the detail if you want to kagan 6-MAY-1996 I imaginecorrespondence has a standard written response I dont think theres anything from the counsels office in particular kagan 6-MAY-1996 JanetMurguia Do you remember the bill on the Alaska Native Culture Institute HR 3049 that the Justice Department thinks is unconstitional but that passed the House by voice vote Could you find out for me what is happening or is likely to happen to the bill in the Senate and when Many thanks kagan 6-MAY-1996 KathleenAMcGinty,MarthaFoley,JenniferMOConnor,DinahBear,TJGlauthier A few more thoughts 1 On the need to prioritize I agree with TJ that there should be more guidance for the field Its true that if we win on k3 were legally obligated to provide replacement timber for the whole 225 mbf But we might lose on k3 and if we do we will need to know which of these sales are the worst which the next worst and so on TJs right that the memo doesnt prioritize in this way nor does it suggest how the field folks should prioritize for themselves 2 The memo suggests that we have no problem with any of the sales we already have been forced to release Is that true Or are there some previously released sales that we currently are or ought to be negotiating about And if so how do these sales fit within the nonexistent list of priorities 3 The statement about needing twice as much alternative timber has to be deleted Someday we may be in litigation with purchasers over whether timber weve given them is of like kind and value and in that context this statement will come back to haunt us 4 To expand on the concerns raised by Dinah in her second and third bullitts cant we cut back on a lot of this memos statement of the problem Id be more comfortable if this memo didnt spend so much time characterizing our legal obligations 5 Im of mixed mind as to whether we should say so directly that we will exercise our right to cancel contracts if negotiations are unsuccessful It might be helpful from an internal point of view to put this position on record More I doubt it will come as a surprise to the timber industry that weve been thinking about this option Finally we will need to state this position at some point and in some context if we want to use it as leverage But I worry that the industry will attempt to use this memos flat statement against us perhaps as a basis for immediately seeking a declaratory judgment regarding our contractual rights or perhaps as evidence that the cancellations result from broadscale policy concerns rather than from good faith casebycase evaluation of the results of contractual performance I think I would at least like to play with the language to alleviate my concerns on these matters kagan 6-MAY-1996 MarthaFoley,DinahBear,TJGlauthier,KathleenAMcGinty,JenniferMOConnor,ShelleyNFidler,BarbaraCChow I didnt say anything on the call home approach but I do agree with Dinah and now Martha on that And I think Martha raises a really good question about who and what this memo is for As its written it doesnt seem to DO much of anything I know Id have a better sense of what should be in it eg discussion of priorities or of contract cancellation if I knew what it was supposed to accomplish kagan 6-MAY-1996 MJillGibbons It looks ok to me Have you checked whether Nelson Cunningham Counsel of the Office of Administration has any views on the matter He might be the most likely person to care about this kagan 7-MAY-1996 JenniferPalmieri Bruce Reed asked me to talk to you about getting me into tomorrows welfare meeting Bruce thinks it might be a good idea to have a lawyer in the room for all the times the HHS folks say that something cant legally be done Let me know if its OK for me to attend and if so when the meeting is Many thanks kagan 7-MAY-1996 AnnaMBriatico no objection from the counsels office kagan 00-00-0000 RobertWMcNeely When you get around to developing the photos from the products liability briefing on May 2 if you could look out for a decent picture that includes me and the President Id really really appreciate it Im the one wearing the black pinstripe suit and black pumpsMany thanks kagan 7-MAY-1996 StephenRNeuwirth no it just came to me in the normal course its all yours kagan 7-MAY-1996 BruceNReed 1 Just a reminder that you should give me a quick substantive refresher course so that I can call the HHS lawyers 2 vicki Radd mentioned to me that youre looking into the question of insurance coverage for battered women Vicky has asked me to figure out whether the President can do anything with the ABA on the subject of battered women Would it help for me to know what youre up to kagan 7-MAY-1996 JeffPDailey Many of these changes seem to me much more than cosmetic I think you should go with Bruces version to the maximum extent possible kagan 7-MAY-1996 StephenRNeuwirth not mesorry kagan 8-MAY-1996 MarthaFoley you know I dont think so I think it may have been about the Presidents statement on the bill to amend the appropriations act kagan 8-MAY-1996 KathleenMWhalen pretty damn tough kagan 9-MAY-1996 ErinKelly thanks i think ill manage see you as soon after 800 as you can in the mess kagan 8-MAY-1996 BruceNReed By the way I suspect there may be some partial and roundabout but nonetheless real ways of enforcing a 24month requirement Perhaps this will prove wrong but I wouldnt concede yet that the scheme must be wholly hortatory kagan 8-MAY-1996 BruceNReed Didnt you tell me that the program people say the lawyers are dealing with these issues Well the lawyers say the program people are dealing with them I told Anna Durand that based on todays meeting the program people have agreed as has the Secretary Durand reiterated that there would be essentially no enforcement mechanism for the 24month requirement She also said that there were many critical details yet to be worked out on the paternity regulation I suggested that sooner rather than later was the appropriate timeframe She said that she understood and that shed talk to the program people kagan 8-MAY-1996 KathleenMWhalen OK now we know Im leaving this all to YOU kagan 8-MAY-1996 LauraCapps I am sending the product liability talking points Trey Schrader handles medical malpractice for our office Id check with him for talking points on that subject As for tort reform generally perhaps Bruce Lindsey but I suspect we dont have any 1 kagan 8-MAY-1996 PRINTERFONT12 POINT COURIER TALKING POINTS ON PRODUCT LIABILITY BILL The President will veto HR 956 because it intrudes on the traditional prerogatives of the states and unfairly tilts the legal playing field against consumers The Administration supports products liability reform at the federal level Any legislation however must respect the important role of the states in our federal system and must fairly balance the interests of consumers with those of manufacturers and sellers Congress could have passed legislation appropriately limited in scope and balanced in application meeting these tests The President would have been glad to sign such a bill But this bill unfairly burdens consumers and unduly infringes on the States The bill displaces many rules of state tort lawand does so in a way that peculiarly disadvantages consumers As a rule the bill displaces state law only when that law is kagan 8-MAY-1996 ErinKelly not so new but I like to think still exciting kagan 8-MAY-1996 EllenSSeidman OK and how do I describe the McConnellHorowitz nofault bill in two simple sentences kagan 8-MAY-1996 ErinKelly How about something like this As you all know the President vetoed the Product Liability Reform Act last week The President supports the enactment of product liability reform but such reform must be appropriately limited in scope and balanced in application he President could not sign the bill that Congress sent him because it failed to meet these standards Most generally the President disapproved of the bills oneway preemption the way the bill would have displaced state law that was more favorable to consumexs but deferred to state law that was less so The President also opposed as he stated many times throughout the legislative process the complete elimination of joint liability for noneconomic damages and the capping of punitive damages He believes that these provisions would have undermined the ability of courts to provide appropriate relief to victims of defective products and thereby endangered the health and safety of the public Finally the President was very disappointed that the Conference moved backward in certain respects from the Senate version of the bill first in widening the application and shortening the length of the statute of repose and second in applying the bills limits on damages to negligent entrustment suits kagan 8-MAY-1996 ErinKelly here it is ATT CREATION TIMEDATE 8MAY1996 18510000 kagan 9-MAY-1996 CherylDMills of course i cant do monday thursday is also out tuesday wednesday thursday kagan 00-00-0000 RonKlain I have a message from Chuck Finnie who identified himself as the DOJ reporter ofr the Legal Times I cant think of anything that hed be calling about other than the great OLC hunt What do I do kagan 00-00-0000 CN why do you think out of ole kagan 13-MAY-1996 DinahBear I had a long talk with Jennifer OConnor today regarding where we were on timber A few things came up that I didnt know or had forgotten the answers to Specifically 1 Is the very brief Jack Ward Thomas letter you sent me our only response to the liability letter Why did we decide not to send the Lyons letter Are we sending anything else 2 What did we ever manage to do re the First and the Last sales I cant kagan 17-JUL-1996 MarnaEMadsen thanks i promise kagan 17-JUL-1996 MichaelAFitzpatrick wednesday the 24th kagan 18-JUL-1996 BruceNReed Yes Ive told them to come up with a few success stories though I didnt say in ColoradoI will nowI think it was when I made that request that Kathy responded that we should be sure not to take too much credit kagan 18-JUL-1996 BruceNReed I just talked with Kathy RussellShe and Debra Cohn will speak to some people from the criminal Division this afternoon and get back to me around 400 or 500 as to what they feel comfortable doing I think it will be OK but as of now I make no guarantees One thing Kathy said makes sense to me and I suspect it will to you too She noted as you did that the number of federal prosecutions brought is very low Because of this she wants to make sure that we not overstate our case as to past accomplishments and indeed that we couch our discussion in terms of how much is yet to be done kagan 20-JUL-1996 MichaelWaldman I have to go and I havent written your two paragraphs sorry for abdicating But please do page or call me tomorrow when you have a draft for me to look at kagan 22-JUL-1996 MarthaFoley Alan Kreczko and I talked to Jack this past week about the Jerusalem provision kagan 20-JUL-1996 BruceNReed Also on the press release 1 you should put a sentence about the directive in the first paragraph and 2 you should take out the reference to the DOJ home page I dont think its true kagan 22-JUL-1996 AnaniasBlocker Just a reminder to send me the current legislative language and the DOT letter Thanks kagan 20-JUL-1996 BruceNReed heres a barebones version Im sure you can jazz itlln kagan 22-JUL-1996 JackMQuinn,KathleenMWallman,DavidFein According to Peter Koppelman the timber deputy in DOJs environmental division USDA lawyers are still negotiating with the purchaser of Warner Creek they remain confident that a global settlement can be reached kagan 22-JUL-1996 KathleenMWallman we talked after I left the message have a good time wherever youre going kagan 23-JUL-1996 LeanneJohnson Jack and I are having a meeting with some people on Thursday regarding unionization of the uniformed division of the secret service the subject of the moody letter Well know better after that meeting how to respond the letter Ill get back to you on it kagan 23-JUL-1996 JohnOSutton thanks for reminding me i hope to get back to you today kagan 23-JUL-1996 do you know anything about this kagan 23-JUL-1996 Justice has just submitted for instantaneous clearance a brief statement the text of which is below on an amendment to be offered by Rep Deutsch to the CommerceJusticeState appropriations bill which is now being debated on the House floor Please give me any comments by 315 pm Thank you Background The Deutsch amendment would reduce by 10 percent certain Federal law enforcement grants to State and local entities that fail to provide public safety officers who retire or are separated due to certain injuries suffered in the line of duty the same or better level of health insurance benefits as were paid at the time of retirement or separation The statement was prepared at the request of Barbara Chow in WHLA Justice is checking with Barbara to see if she wants the following text formatted into a letter from Justice to the appropriators kagan 24-JUL-1996 AliceEShuffield looks fine to me kagan 25-JUL-1996 TracyFSisser looks good kagan 26-JUL-1996 KathleenMWallman Could you call me on this I need advice kagan 26-JUL-1996 LeanneJohnson mope still in progress kagan 26-JUL-1996 CherylLSweitzer were you able to schedule it kagan 29-JUL-1996 JackMQuinn,KathleenMWallman,DavidFein Loiss understanding is that as of this morning the negotiations are ongoing that the parties are very very very close but not quite there yet kagan 31-JUL-1996 KathleenMWallman Did you send me the Waxman missive on the religion EO I still havent gotten it Thanks kagan 31-JUL-1996 DavidFein 1 kagan 31-JUL-1996 TO I am trying to wrap up the DEA and Border Patrol testimony for the July 31 1996 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Drug Smuggling on the Southwest Border circulated yesterday under LRMs 5222 and 5223 with comments due by noon today If I do not hear from you by 230pm I will assume that you have no objections to the testimony kagan 31-JUL-1996 DavidFein 1 kagan 31-JUL-1996 JohnEThompson I am getting ready to clear the Justice testimony on HR 3386 Ethical Standards for Prosecutors Act circulated under LRM 5229 with comments due by 5pm last night If I do not receive your comments by 2pm today I will assume that kagan 31-JUL-1996 StephenCWarnath Looks good to me kagan 31-JUL-1996 MelindaDHaskins Could you tell me to whom within the EOP you sent the most recent DOJ letter on the welfare bill Many thanks kagan 31-JUL-1996 JackMQuinn,KathleenMWallman,DavidFein Lois Schiffer just called to say that USDA has reached an agreement in principle with the purchaser of Warner Creek The settlement involves not only Warner Creek but a number of other outstanding claims The lawyers for USDA and the purchaser are currently writing up the agreement It will then be submitted to DOJ civil and environmental divisions for approval kagan 31-JUL-1996 JackMQuinn 1 Sorry for not knowing that the citizen child provision was out I hope that wasnt embarrassing at the meeting this morning 2 Lest you ever doubted my constitutional analysis on that provision Ill have you know that according to Chris 1 the great majority of DOJ folks who weighed in on the question agreed with me and 2 OLC though not changing its ultimate position radically revised its theory 3 Sometime when you have time Id love to hear about this mornings meeting kagan 1-AUG-1996 LisaJordanTamagni Its fine Thanks kagan 2-AUG-1996 FloydettaMcAfee Sorry to do thjs to you but Shabbir wakhariya called me again and I told him I kagan 2-AUG-1996 looks good to me kagan 5-AUG-1996 RichardSocarides Sorry I backburnered the Hickam issue Ive been going a bit crazy on welfare kagan 5-AUG-1996 CherylLSweitzer Do you have David Kendalls address Thanks kagan 5-AUG-1996 DinahBear yes please fax me the lyons memo thanks kagan 5-AUG-1996 MelindaDHaskins Per our conversation what Id like to see is some language referring in policy terms to Congresss grant of authority to states to deny benefits to legal immigrants That would allow me to tag on something like the following kagan 5-AUG-1996 KathleenMWallman As we discussed Ill be taking some vacation soon specifically Ill be gone from Friday Aug 9 through Tuesday August 20 I will be overseas but I will leave a schedule with Sheri and Odetta before I go kagan 5-AUG-1996 GeneBSperling There sure isnt much in the newspapers Could you let me know if and when you get something in writing or better yet fax me the relevant pages 61647 Thanks kagan 5-AUG-1996 ToddStern Al Kamen is right Sturms name was sent up last week Of course there wont be any action until after the election But still kagan 7-AUG-1996 KathleenMWallman who does this stuff ATT CREATION TIMEDATE 6AUG1996 16370000 kagan 6-AUG-1996 WendySWhite 1 kagan 7-AUG-1996 CarolHRasco,ToddStern,JamesJJukes ok with me kagan 8-AUG-1996 OdettaSWalker I will be in London and Edinburgh for the next 11 days or so From August 9 through August 15 I will be at the Waldorf in London 01718362400 On August 16 I will be at the Stakis Grosvenor in Edinburgh at 01312266001 On August 17 and 18 I will be at the Kingston House Hotel in Edinburgh 01316649696 On August 19 I will be at the Caledonian in Edinbuirgh at 01312252433 kagan 8-AUG-1996 RobertWSchroeder Ill be on vacation until August 20 Could you take all the LRMs that usually c kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel My hunch is the same as USDAs though I havent looked at it sufficiently to say anything definitive kagan 8-AUG-1996 KennethSApfel My hunch is the same as USDAs though I havent looked at it sufficiently to say anything definitive kagan 21-AUG-1996 BruceNReed In light of the meeting this morning I took it on myself to fiddle with the signing statment so as to include something about the food stamplegal immigrant problem I would suggest the following In the second pargapraph on p 3 after the phrase no fault of their own add kagan 21-AUG-1996 Here is a new version of the talking points I leave it to you to figure out in the process of changing whatever you want to change how to get it to fit onto one page 1 ATTCREATIONTIMEDA TE21AUG199615330000 kagan 21-AUG-1996 P R I N T E RFONT1 2P O I N TROMAN TALKING POINTS ON HR 1833 The President vetoed HR 1833 which would have prohibited a certain kind of abortion procedure for one reason because it failed to include an exemption that would havepermitted the use of this procedure in the rare cases where it is necessary to protect women from serious threats to their health The President could not sign a bill that would have abandoned women facing such serious health risks The procedure described in the bill troubles the President deeply He does not support use of that procedure on an kagan 22-AUG-1996 KathleenMWallman Ive sent the attached to Bruce Let me know if you have any suggestions USDA is fully on board According to Greg Frazier it is entirely up to us whether we wish to do a directive USDA also can go ahead without one I think a directive would make sense but we probably should run this by the appropriate kagan 22-AUG-1996 In light of the meeting this morning I took it on myself to fiddle with the signing statment so as to include something about the food stamplegal immigrant kagan 22-AUG-1996 BarryToiv And another thought We could stress that this directive is needed in order to allow states the time to devise fair and accurate ways of making the determinations required by the bill The bill does allow certain legal aliens to receive food stamps for example if theyre veterans or if theYre permanent resident aliens who have worked for 40 quarters Right now the states dont have ways of checking such information and making eligibility determinations on that basis So when Mr X comes up for certification tomorrow the state may well make a mistake in determining his eligibility This directive will go some way toward giving states the time they need to set up verification procedures that will ensure accurate eligibility determinations kagan 00-00-0000 DawnChirwa,CherylDMills,KumikiSGibson I said you did kagan 00-00-0000 Attached is a new version of the press statement which attempts to describe a bit better exactly what a certification period is 1 ATTCREATIONTIMEDA TE22AUG199618540000 kagan 00-00-0000 PRINTERFONT12 POINT COURIER kagan 22-AUG-1996 CarolHRasco,JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed,DianaMFortuna I included them in them memo kagan 22-AUG-1996 JeremyDBenami,DianaMFortuna,Jillpizzuto you bet kagan 22-AUG-1996 CherylDMills Dawn I think kagan 22-AUG-1996 Jillpizzuto 4567594 phone 4561647 fax kagan 22-AUG-1996 ToddStern OK by me kagan 22-AUG-1996 BarryToiv I think part of the way to talk about the certification date directive is to use the situation of a person who already has applied for citizenship Assumehis certification date is coming up he will be cut off from benefits even though hes just waiting for INS to process his application The effect of this directive could be as we discussed we cannot say would be to provide him with benefits for the few months he needs to become naturalized Of course the directive also applies to aliens who have not applied for or are currently ineligible for naturalization But those cases are of course less sympathetic Moreover in those cases the directive only postpones the inevitable cutoff whereas in the immigration pipeline case discussed above it serves a real transitional function kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,RahmEmanuel Attached is a new and shorter version of the draft statement to accompany the directives I have sent a copy to Barry Toiv as well 1 ATTCREATIONTIMEDA TE23AUG199609480000 kagan 00-00-0000 PRINTERFONT12 POINT COURIER kagan 23-AUG-1996 PRINTERFONT12 POINT COURIER kagan 23-AUG-1996 PRINTERFONT12 POINT COURIER kagan 23-AUG-1996 Attached is a shorter version Sorry to keep doing this to you kagan 23-AUG-1996 PRINTERFONT12 POINT COURIER kagan 23-AUG-1996 JeremyDBenami,MichelleCrisciforRahmE,BarryToiv,CarolHRasco,DianaMFortuna One slight amendment As I understand it the bill authorizes not requires the AG to designate certain programs as ones for which aliens will continue to be eligible So in designating such programs thereby keeping them open to legal aliens the AG is doing something she is specifically authorized but not required to do kagan 25-AUG-1996 KathleenMWallman,DawnChirwa Im working on a Religious Freedom issue brief for Vicky Radd Could one of you give me a fewsentences detailing what actions the President took with respect to churchburnings Many thanks kagan 24-AUG-1996 JenniferMOConnor Sorry I dont Wendy should I know lowe you some stuff I was away on vacation for almost 2 weeks and Im just this weekend trying to wade through the paper that came in during that time When are you going to Chicago kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMOConnor Sure I can find out Monday Well you be getting emails or is there someplace I should call London and Edinburgh It was great kagan 24-AUG-1996 BruceNReed This seemed to me as good as it comes keeping his promise and then a transcription of our press release Agree kagan 2-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna,CarolHRasco,BarryWhite,RichardEGreen,JeremyDBenami Id very much like to be part of the analysis and presentation of the legal options on this question Let me know how you are intending to proceed kagan 24-AUG-1996 ToddStern Can I get a clean copy of our new and improved talking points on partial birth abortionthanks kagan 2-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna,LyndellHogan,EmilyBromberg,JeremyDBenami I dont think they need to be told The womens groups have already contacted Betsy Myers with a proposed executive directive relating to the amendment Leon asked the counsels office on friday to look into the proposal Ill send it around kagan 2-SEP-1996 JeremyDBenami Is the hhs guidance we were supposed to look at the one with the quote on the cover page when are we supposed to provide comments Ive looked at it kagan 1-SEP-1996 DinahBear I just got back from vacation and read your memoWhats happened since kagan 26-AUG-1996 KathleenMWallman I have looked at the ole memos you sent me on the antideficiency act what would you like to talk about and when kagan 26-AUG-1996 LeanneJohnson sorry for the delay on this Right now Im waiting for some info from the Justice Dept kagan 3-SEP-1996 IngridMSchroeder Whats the status of hr 3005 discussed in lrm 5303 when do we really need to get a views letter up assuming we want to do so kagan 25-AUG-1996 DawnChirwa many many thanks more than enough kagan 26-AUG-1996 JeffreyAweinberg Sorry I didnt get back to you What happened at Fridays meeting Where are we now kagan 26-AUG-1996 EllenSSeidman I got back from vacation to find the memo you wrote to pat lewis on tort reform kagan 25-AUG-199621 DennisBurke that if theres anything i can do for you on the crime initiatives you should let me know by the way the head of doj s criminal division tells me that i was right and the doj folks were wrong when i said at last weeks meeting that gun offenses do not count as a predicate act under rico i dont know if amending rico to include gun offenses would be smart or stupidas a matter of politics or as a matter of policy but it definitely is an option kagan 26-AUG-1996 EllenSSeidman I got back from vacation to find the memo you wrote to pat lewis on tort reform kagan 26-AUG-1996 KathleenMWallman Yup Dawn sent me some stuff Sorry I forgot to tell you kagan 26-AUG-1996 JeffreyAweinberg Given the apparent level of resistance and the lack of support from DOJ I think well let this one go But thanks for making us aware of it kagan 00-00-0000 KeithJFontenot This meeting is the same time as our ssa meeting isnt that right Can we change the ssa meeting 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE27AUG1996 13540000 kagan 00-00-0000 FAX,TO,KeithJFontenot isnt this at the same time as our ssa meeting 1 kagan 31-AUG-1996 JenniferMOConnor Jack wanted to get DOJ input on how to respond to the latest letter from James vissar President of the UGSOA on the Marshals Service We are still waiting to hear back from DOJ kagan 28-AUG-1996 MarnaEMadsen congratulations That sounds like a great job kagan 00-00-0000 DeborahFKramerDeborahFKramer I dont think Im going to be able to make a meeting Wed at 200 Is it possible to do it at 400 insteadSorry kagan 3-SEP-1996 ToddStern statute of frauds Why kagan 3-SEP-1996 JenniferMOConnor walter still hasnt called me back sorry kagan 00-00-0000 JeffPDailey,DawnChirwa,KumikiSGibson It seems that the person who does this in our office though Kumiki may do it for the VP is John Yarowsky kagan 4-SEP-1996 KathleenMWhalen what would you think of something like this kagan 4-SEP-1996 I was just up meeting w the House Judiciary Comm staff on the PTO bill John Im sure John Kamensky will give you asummary it kagan 6-SEP-1996 JackMQuinn,CherylLSweitzer The Presidents meeting with the FOP Board is at 345 on Monday the briefing is at 330 Ive said that you are planning on attending Other WH participants will be Rahm and possibly the Vice President Let me know if you change your mind kagan 9-SEP-1996 KennethSApfel,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg No problem This morning I gave Justice the best argument I could develop Im now waiting for a view from them as to whether theyd be willing to defend the action on my theory or some other Ill let you know as soon as I hear anything I told Ken that between waiting for Justice and talking to Leon Monday seems the realistic target date for a decision kagan 5-SEP-1996 CherylLSweitzer thanks i thought it was 300 but 230 is fine i just sent jack an email that he may wish to look at before the meeting kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel Given the necessity of some more lawyer talk and then a conversation with Leon Im wondering whether CA should be told that it will have to wait until Monday for an answer kagan 5-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna why dont i talk to anna weve been trading calls anyway about a number of other things thanks kagan 5-SEP-1996 ToddStern 1 where are we on this 2 Ive approved one change that the NTSB asked for Im assuming theyre OK with the rest Instead of the phrase assisting families similar needs please insert ensuring that families who wish to travel to the accident site receive all necessary assistance Thanks kagan 5-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna its 402 The 402 in my book relates to immigrants kagan 5-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna gotcha my fault kagan 5-SEP-1996 EllenSSeidman thanks and thanks were supposedly getting a memo from OLC today though theyre usually late I got a call from a VP of the NYSE yesterday They are running something in their newsletter which goes to all CEOs of NYSE companies on where the candidates stand on the California referendum She wanted to know whether we had a written statement on the subject or even a transcript of oral remarks Do we What do you think we should tell her kagan 5-SEP-1996 JackMQuinn I just learned that the President will be meeting with the FOP Board for a 20minute meeting sometime on Monday The subject of Uniformed Division unionization may well come up I will be sure to check all briefing materials to ensure that the President has the information he needs Ive been told that if in addition you would like to attend the meeting you would be more than welcome kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna can i get a copy of that memo I never saw it Thanks kagan 6-SEP-1996 StephenCWarnath I dont have them Thanks kagan 6-SEP-1996 AnnaMBriatico I havent had a chance to look at this yet Id appreciate a few more hours Thanks kagan 6-SEP-1996 JeremyDBenami In the waiver section the Note seems quite unclear to me Isnt what they mean the following Future legislative or regulatory action may establish limits on the ability of states to operate under waivers that are inconsistent with the new law Or do I have this wrong kagan 9-SEP-1996 ToddStern Ive incorporated comments from DOT DOJ and the NTSB Heres the new version kagan 9-SEP-1996 PRINTERFONT12 POINT COURIER kagan 9-SEP-1996 BruceNReed,JeremyDBenami Does anyone at the White House think that the SG should NOT be filing in this case I have to admit that I dont quite understand from this memo either the legal issues raised or HHSs desired position if either of you knows more Id be interested 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE 6SEP1996 18430000 kagan 9-SEP-1996 BruceNReed 1 Just to clarify the two provisions relating to new residents are at 402a 1 B i and 404c The former if taken alone would suggest that Wisconisn does not need a waiver to implement its proposed 60day waiting period the latter if taken alone would suggest that Wisconsin does need a waiver to take this action It is unclear what the answer should be given that both these provisions 402 seeming to countenance any differential treatment of new residents 404 seeming to countenance only one kind and not Wisconsins kind of differential treatment are in the statute HHS of course takes the position that 404 is the controlling provision hence that Wisconsin needs a waiver I am proceeding on the assumption that you dont want to contest this interpretation 2 Anna Durand and I spoke late Friday afternoon She told me that Mary Jo didnt want to agree to the language she Anna had proposed on the residency requirement I told her that Jack has always had strong feelings on this issue and there is no reason to think he will change them he wants HHS to approve the waiver on this issue in exactly the way we proposed months ago I also noted that we should just do the thing rather than write a letter saying we would be doing it sometime She didnt disagree but shes clearly not calling the shots he she was going to go back to Mary Jo and call me on Monday kagan 9-SEP-1996 ChristaTRobinson What is the police officers bill of rights kagan 8-SEP-1996 AnnaMBriatico I have some concerns about the Justice letter on HR 2406 and S 1260 Who do I speak with at DOJ and what is the real timing on this kagan 9-SEP-1996 EllenSSeidman DOJ is supposed to get me a memo today Of course it was supposed to be ththen friday etc meantime dodds person on the issue called john angell who referred him to me he had heard rumors that we were thinking of doing this and wanted to get some indication of where we werei basically told him we were nowherei think he thinks were nuts first we veto the secutiry bill then we take on an issue that will make the nadertypes angrier than anything that was in that bill he said that in earlier discussions dodd had decided to stay away from it with a 10foot pole kagan 9-SEP-1996 EllenSSeidman no dont do anything yet we should low key this as much as possible for now when weve all had a chance to look at this memo ill talk to bruce kagan 9-SEP-1996 LeanneJohnson sorry they havent gotten back to me kagan 9-SEP-1996 MelindaDHaskins ok with me kagan 9-SEP-1996 MelindaDHaskins also ok kagan 9-SEP-1996 EllenSSeidman I suspect everyone will be of that view so lets lowkey this as much as possible kagan 9-SEP-1996 MelindaDHaskins also ok with me kagan 9-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna no I know doj was working on it over the weekend because i called over there kagan 12-SEP-1996 ToddStern,RichardSocarides Could you be sure to tell me and Richard Socarides the moment the samesex marriageb illcomesinManythanks kagan 12-SEP-1996 ToddStern,RichardSocarides Could you be sure to tell me and Richard Socarides the moment the samesex marriageb illcomesinManythanks kagan 11-SEP-1996 DeborahLFine,DianaMFortuna No word Were talking with DOJ at 500 kagan 11-SEP-1996 DavidFein That is so disillusioning kagan 11-SEP-1996 PaulJWeinsteinJr The question is back Ill get you a new copy today kagan 13-SEP-1996 StephenCWarnath I havent gotten that Could you send it to me Thanks kagan 13-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna ditto kagan 16-SEP-1996 ElisabethBlaug This one is all Dawns especially since Im on jury duty kagan 17-SEP-1996 LeanneJohnson Remind me what was the issue The Uniformed Division or the Marshals Service kagan 17-SEP-1996 RichardSocarides 1 No Do you have a tape 2 I thought it was pretty decent You 3 Whats wrong with it 4 I may be hard to reach tomorrow I was actually picked today to serve on a jury kagan 00-00-0000 KumikiSGibson Thanks muchIll send it over kagan 17-SEP-1996 LeanneJohnson I sent it to DOJ with a request that they advise us how to answer Ill call them tomorrow to find out where they are kagan 17-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna when is it kagan 00-00-0000 DeborahFKramer As I told you yesterday our office is setting up a meeting for later in the day to discuss all the California alternatives and try to reach finally a resolution The last page of the Greenstein memo talks about CAs timing problems It sounds as if they need this morning either 1 a decision to grant CAs request or 2 a USDA commitment that quality control errors resulting from our consideration 0 o f this request be excused for good cause Since we cant have the first this morning I think we should try to do the second Can you call folks at USDA and ask them to make this commitment Ill call you this morning if I can kagan 19-SEP-1996 KathleenMWallman Isnt this Daves kagan 19-SEP-1996 Diane Regas and I would like to bring you up to date and get your guidance on next steps in our response to the Advisory Committee Recomendations Wed like to meet tomorrow at 200 in my office 222 OEOB Please RSVP kagan 18-SEP-1996 OdettaSWalker please include him too kagan 19-SEP-1996 JeremyDBenami,KennethSApfel,EmilyBromberg,DianaMFortuna,StephenCWarnath,CarolHRasco,BruceNReed I do apologize to those not invited to todays 500 meeting Ive been trying to do things while sitting in a jury room Thanks for your indulgence kagan 19-SEP-1996 CarolHRasco Now I know not to complain Im sure its a lot worse from the defendants end than from a jurors Ive spent the last three days thinking about whether two DC police officers wrongfully impounded the plaintiffs hot dog cart We too were deadlocked but after an instruction from the judge and an hour off for lunch we decided the case in short order Judgment for the plaintiff but low damages kagan 19-SEP-1996 I spoke with Jane DeCe11 of DOT reo the opening of the conference on the Coast Guard authorization bill Apparently everyone agreed that a compromise must be reached on the tort liability provision in order to produce a bill but it did not appear that they were close to achieving such a compromise 1 kagan 19-SEP-1996 JohnCAngell Sorry for the late notice but can you come to a meeting in my office at 415 on the CA food stamp issue I want to get everyones agreement on a single proposal to make to Leon assuming he wants to be involved Carol and Bruce kagan 19-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna I think just the meeting with ssa is the right step for now kagan 19-SEP-1996 JamesABrown Thanks That is fine with me kagan 19-SEP-1996 KennethSApfel,JeremyDBenami,DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg,StephenCWarnath I think we need a meeting today to reach a suppose whether to present this issue to Leon My sense is that this should not take very long Can we say before the immigration meeting at 415 in my office Rm 125 kagan 20-SEP-1996 JeremyDBenami You know a meeting like this shouldnt happen in the first place It is absurd that the womens office alone is representing the WH at a session with a Senator to discuss implementation of the welfare bill kagan 20-SEP-1996 RichardSocarides Jack thinks the statement is excellent His only question which I share why kagan 20-SEP-1996 JeremyDBenami I just got out of a toolong staff meeting and have to do some things before our 1100 Im awfully sorry to miss it kagan 24-SEP-1996 ToddStern I seem to have thrown out the issue of the post with the partial birth article in it Sorry kagan 23-SEP-1996 AnnaMBriatico whats happening to hr 2406s 1260 kagan 24-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna I talked to Yvette about this I dont think Id press it especially not now kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfelKennethSApfel No sir Or at any rate I didnt get anything I first learned that language was floating around when I was talking with Yvette Jackson on another matter late this morning Dont worry about it an oversight or two is no problem kagan 24-SEP-1996 JenniferDDudley Yes if youll agree to eat on the later side I just found out about a meeting with Leon I have to go to at noon Can we eat whenevr that meeting ends I dont care where your choice kagan 24-SEP-1996 JeffPDailey looks ok to me kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel Whereare we on legislative language that would respond to CAs request for an extension of the food stamp certification period I just got from Yvette Jackson four versions she sent to OMB I may be wrong but I think all four are poorly drafted all in the same way Has OMB been working on its own legislative language Has it been presented to Leon kagan 24-SEP-1996 EmilyBromberg,DianaMFortuna,JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed Also we dont yet have a definitive answer on the question of when the money will go out Until theyve satsified us that they cannot legally send the money out now as they are doing for child care theres nothing to tell anyone kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfelKennethSApfel I have to say to you alone that it would have helped if someone in your office had shown me the language kagan 24-SEP-1996 BarbaraDWoolley I got one Thanks kagan 25-SEP-1996 AnnaMBriatico I have comments so dont do anything without me kagan 24-SEP-1996 MaryEllenGlynn,BetsyMyers The striking thing about Cohens column is that while he criticizes the President sharply his position and the Presidents are very much consistent with each other As you say the President has said he would prohibit the use of this procedure where not necessary to save the woman from death or serious physical injury The only thing he has asked for is a tightly confined exception for these kinds of cases Nor by the way has the President made any representations about how many lateterm or partial birth abortions are done for lifeserious health reasons and how many for other reasons He hasnt said that all partial birth abortions are done for lifehealth reasons indeed he has acknowledged that not all are He has said only that those done for lifeserious health reasons must be permitted I guess Im agnostic as between a call and a letter I lean towards the call but mostly I think that the two of you should decide If we decide on a letter Id be happy to draft or to review If we decide on a call Id be happy to participate as needed kagan 00-00-0000 KeithJFontenotKeithJFontenot where are we on this I want to have time to see everything and review it with DOJ And I want to take out the comma after the phrase shall not apply until A pril11997 kagan 00-00-0000 KeithJFontenot looks fine to me kagan 25-SEP-1996 EmilyBromberg Debbie Kramer is setting up a meeting Ive talked with Justice and I think were now in a position to make a decision kagan 25-SEP-1996 JenniferDDudley no problem kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna,KeithJFontenot,BarryWhite,DeborahFKramer,CynthiaMSmith,KennethSApfel got it kagan 26-SEP-1996 DianaMFortuna,JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed,EmilyBromberg,KennethSApfel,CarolHRasco I misunderstood I thought you were talking about HHS talking with Wisconsin on Monday about its waiver request Thats what I was asking about kagan 00-00-0000 KeithJFontenotKeithJFontenot could you send me your language again I seem to have deleted it kagan 00-00-0000 FORTUNA,BarryWhite,DeborahFKramer,CynthiaMSmith,KennethSApfel Thats fine The only point I intended to make is that when we communicate this message and I take it were doing it orally so I wouldnt get obsessed on exact language we shouldnt say that the states are in any way legally prevented from operating under these waivers because theyre not kagan 26-SEP-1996 DorothyKCraft fine kagan 26-SEP-1996 MelindaDHaskins fine with me let me know if anyone else has any problems thanks kagan 00-00-0000 KeithJFontenot,FORTUNA,BarryWhite,DeborahFKramer,CynthiaMSmith,KennethSApfel Thats fine The only point I intended to make is that when we communicate this message and I take it were doing it orally so I wouldnt get obsessed on exact language we shouldnt say that the states are in any way legally prevented from operating under these waivers because theyre not kagan 26-SEP-1996 ToddStern JackKathy just sent me the memo from Browner you sent around Where is this and whos been working on it kagan 26-SEP-1996 AnnaMBriatico I11 OK it kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg,KeithJFontenot We cant very well distinguish between the two kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna,StephenCWarnath,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg,KennethSApfel,KeithJFontenot I think we should meet too The other option to the one Diana mentions is to try to get out quickly guidance along the lines of what USDA was talking about at our big meeting on the CA proposal the socalled presumption that really isnt a presumption at all and shouldnt be labeled so kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna,KeithJFontenot,BarryWhite,DeborahFKramer,CynthiaMSmith,KennethSApfel got it kagan 26-SEP-1996 JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed,EmilyBromberg,KennethSApfel,DianaMFortuna,CarolHRasco Wait a minute what is the decision on the waiver what exactly or even not so exactly are they going to say kagan 27-SEP-1996 AnaniasBlocker,DeborahLFine whatever happened to the coast guard bill kagan 27-SEP-1996 KathleenMWallman Just to let you know after checking in with Rahm and Greg i approved the draft jurisdictional statement Greg didnt approve so much as shrug his shoulders but I said to himand I think he knows that given our decision to defend the statute this is about as good as hes going to get kagan 00-00-0000 RosalynJRettmanRosalynJRettman Ill check kagan 2-0CT-1996 JeremyDBenami,KeithJFontenot,DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg Keith what is the Domenici amendment Does it fix the whole New Mexico problem so that we can take this out of the memo were sending to the president kagan 3-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,KeithJFontenot,benami_j,bromberg_e FYI Ive talked with HHS about its legal opinion and I think its quite strong We should probably amend the paragraph to reflect that too kagan 2-0CT-1996 KathleenMWallman Im missing pp 8 9 and 1113 of the FCCs 8th Circuit brief If you have them in your version please send them over Many thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DeborahFKramerDeborahFKramer when kagan 00-00-0000 DianaMFortuna,KeithJFontenot,benami_j,bromberg_e FYI Ive talked with HHS about its legal oplnlon and I think its quite strong We should probably amend the paragraph to reflect that too kagan 00-00-0000 RosalynJRettman Could you get me a final copy of the letter Many thanks 61647 kagan 4-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg,JeremyDBenami what is floridas interpretation kagan 7-0CT-1996 BrianScott sure anytime that day kagan 8-0CT-1996 KathleenMWallman Could you get me p 7 of the GTE brief from whomever you got the last set of missing pages from Many thanks It seems like an important page kagan 8-0CT-1996 JamesJJukes The deal is absolutely fine with us kagan 9-0CT-1996 KathleenMWallman do you know whether the 8th circuit has ruled on the stay application kagan 9-0CT-1996 StephenCWarnath friday anytime would be much much better kagan 10-0CT-1996 BrianScott Do you know who the faculty members are if there are any Can you send me whatever letter ot other information they sent you Thanks much kagan 10-0CT-1996 OdettaSWalker,CherylDMills No problem kagan 10-0CT-1996 DorothyKCraft Ill be there kagan 10-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna ok with me kagan 15-0CT-1996 EllenSSeidman Call me re the fax Michael Schlein sent to us Thanks kagan 15-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,JeremyDBenami,BruceNReed,EmilyBromberg Ill defer to others as to whether we should get involved But if we do Id like to know the theory whether CAs or HHSs that would permit deferral of the work requirementsAs I read the relevant section of the statute this seems pretty dicey kagan 15-0CT-1996 EmilyBromberg,DianaMFortuna will do they have nerve dont they kagan 15-0CT-1996 JamesABrown yes kagan 18-0CT-1996 JenniferMOConnor Are they OK with you kagan 00-00-0000 DeborahFKramerDeborahFKramer I can kagan 17-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,StephenCWarnath,JeremyDBenami I resolved it but only by agreeing to change one sentence Ive been trying to get in touch with Jeremy to find the newest version of the document so I can do so Do you have it kagan 17-0CT-1996 JeremyDBenami I dont have the 1850 guidelines kagan 18-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,BruceNReed,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg Do you know if Harriet or Anna will be there Id like to understand the legal theory that would allow this to be done kagan 18-0CT-1996 JeanineDSmartt sounds great kagan 21-0CT-1996 JackMQuinn,KathleenMWallman I just got a call from Mike Small who tells me that all of DOJ made a mistake and that the Aguilar brief is really due on October 29 not November 8 In addition while talking with David Ogden this morning I put in a request to see an advance copy of this brief Now that the due date is so near I think we should press this request ASAP Agree kagan 21-0CT-1996 JackMQuinn,KathleenMWallman FYI DOJ signed the waiver of service form for the First Lady just as it did for EOP and the FBI The plaintiffs attorney had no problem at all with this and the question of representation did not come up kagan 21-0CT-1996 KathleenMWhalen Ill check tomorrow kagan 22-0CT-1996 EmilyBromberg I did get the letter and will send it to you The last time I talked with Randy they were still discussing how to respond I told them to be sure to give me a draft before they sent anything kagan 22-0CT-1996 PRINTERFONT12POINT COURIER kagan 22-0CT-1996 JenniferDDudley Ill call today Thanks for reminding me Have you gottten any bites elsewhere kagan 22-0CT-1996 OdettaSWalker You bet kagan 00-00-0000 DeborahFKramerDeborahFKramer would you send me another copy too thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DeborahFKramer 61647thanks kagan 24-0CT-1996 CatherineABohn 7Thanks kagan 28-0CT-1996 JackMQuinn,KathleenMWallman 1 Ive talked with Seth about reworking the Aguilar brief to make it more supportive at the very least in tone of the Secretarys position on the merits I suspect they will make some changes along these lines though not to the extent we would like I also urged Seth to change the language in the briefs conclusion Right now it says the Court should grant cert if the Court agrees that this is an appropriate case to reconsider Aguilar I asked that the conclusion state that the Court should grant cert because this is an appropriate case to reconsider Aguilar which is a phrase used elsewhere in the brief We shall see 2 I spent some time Friday afternoon talking with lawyers from the AFT and NEA kagan 29-0CT-1996 KathleenMWallman Ive looked over the memo you sent me on cases presenting issues of concern to women It doesnt look as if there are many decisions left to be made Are there any other cases coming down the pike that we should be aware of Let me know when you want to talk kagan 29-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna,EmilyBromberg I talked with Randy yesterday after speaking with Emily As Emily recommnded I asked him to make a couple of changes in the last paragraph which he agreed to do Hes going to recirculate the letter around the Justice Department so that interested people can review the new draft I assume the timing is sometime next week kagan 00-00-0000 PaulALeonard,benami__ja1eopgov_at_Internet,benami_j,benami_j As far as I know agency consultations leading to submission of a proposal to DOJ are ongoing kagan 30-0CT-1996 EmilyBromberg,JeremyDBenami,DianaMFortuna I spoke with Anna about the bucket issue yesterday She and the other HHS lawyers still think its undoable but they are having a last meeting with Cindy Mann etc to discuss the idea I asked to attend that meeting I assume it w illbesometimenextweek kagan 30-0CT-1996 PaulALeonard,benami__ja1eopgov_at_Internet,benami_j,benami_j As far as I know agency consultations leading to submission of a proposal to DOJ are ongoing kagan 30-0CT-1996 DianaMFortuna I dont see why not kagan 30-0CT-1996 EmilyBromberg,JeremyDBenami,DianaMFortuna I spoke with Anna about the bucket issue yesterday She and the other HHS lawyers still think its undoable but they are having a last meeting with Cindy Mann etc to discuss the idea I asked to attend that meeting I assume it will be sometime next week kagan 1-NOV-1996 DianaMFortuna Interesting Am I supposed to have the HHS letters kagan 31-0CT-1996 PaulJWeinsteinJr see attached kagan 1-NOV-1996 TracyFSisser The fax came out badly and I cant read it Can you send me another copy Thanks kagan 5-NOV-1996 KathleenMWallman as Im sure youve guessed there are no meetings tomorrow kagan 7-NOV-1996 DianaMFortuna yes kagan 7-NOV-1996 DianaMFortuna,JeremyDBenami,EmilyBromberg,RichardEGreen Looks fine to me On another subject HHS held its bucket meeting today I thought the groups made a very strong presentation Anna and I have been trading calls this afternoon so I dont yet know what HHS thought about it kagan 11-NOV-199613 KathleenMWallman One of these days well have to respond to Congresman Bliley re home drug testing Could I talk to you sometime today about what we should do Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 TracyFSisser how is the attached draft A TT ACHMENT1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE12NOV1996 12230000 kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfelKennethSApfel I really dont think so I think the balls in their court kagan 00-00-0000 KennethSApfel,ESSwain I dont think so I think HHS is still engaged in discussions with other agencies At least thats what HHS reported at todays welfare implementation subgroup issue kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneIJohnson OK kagan 00-00-0000 PhyllisKaiserDarkPhyllisKaiserDark yes I can attend kagan 13-NOV-1996 DorothyKCraft Im free all afternoon kagan 00-00-0000 JackMQuinn,BruceRLindsey,KathleenMWallman The jones oral argument has been set for January 13 kagan 00-00-0000 JackMQuinn,KathleenMWallman FYI I havent forgotten about the question of whether contractors can charge the government for the cost of engaging in antiunion activity Marvin asked for some more time to do research before meeting with me and Steve Kelman Hes not quite ready yet but Ill push a bit and let you know as soon as theres anything to report kagan 00-00-0000 TracyFSisserTracyFSisser The after careful consideration language is fine I think JOC should be fine with the letter now Just run a new version by her and let me know kagan 19-NOV-1996 CherylLSweitzer sure kagan 00-00-0000 TracyFSisserTracyFSisser I talked to Jen and shes OK with the most recent draft including the after careful consideration language thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MelindaDHaskins You mean Wednesday yes I cant do itat 200 and would very much like to be there kagan 00-00-0000 ElenaKagan test kagan 00-00-0000 ElenaKagan test22222222222222222222222222 kagan 00-00-0000 DeborahFKramer I wont be able to come I have a meeting with Leon at 4 kagan 00-00-0000 OdettaSWalker see attahced ATTCREATIONTIMEDA TE22NOV1996 kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey,WALLMAN,JohnMQuinn 1 Victor Schwartz called to tell me he was sending us another memo on products reform this one dealing more with politics and less with substance During our conversation he proposed that Jack convene a meeting that both he Schwartz and the new President of ATLA would attend presumably to see if there is any common ground I dont see any reason to do this right now but it is something to keep in mind kagan 00-00-0000 WALLMAN,CherylDMills,JohnMQuinn As I told Jack on Friday DOJ definitely wants to seek cert in this case The 8Gs Office says that it always seeks cert when lower courts have held a statute unconstitutional in essence the Office uses the same standard in determining whether to seek cert as it does in deciding whether to defend the statute initially The NEA is obviously unhappy with proceeding any further it is worried that the decision to seek cert will deeply offend the arts community which then will refuse to support the agency in future congressional battles over funding But given the SGs general policy combined with the broader politics of this issue I dont see any way to support the NEA in its effort to stop DOJ from going further I anyone disagrees let me know kagan 00-00-0000 JohnMQuinn Mark Gittenstein wanted me to let you know that Joe Kennedys AA whose name I didnt catch might be calling you about securities preemption Apparently Kennedy wants to do something on the subject preparatory to a run at the Governors seat Gittenstein didnt tell the AA to call but thinks he might do so and wanted to give you a headsup kagan 00-00-0000 OdettaSWalker,JenniferDDudley,CherylLSweitzer Bob Bennett is having a meeting at his office on Dec 4 at 1030 to discuss the jones case I know Jack wants to come I assume Bruce and Kathy will as well kagan 00-00-0000 CherylDMills Can you call me asap thanks kagan 00-00-0000 WALLMAN,JohnMQuinn Jane Lay of OGE is going to call you Jack or may already have done so I think she will try to persuade you to abandon the idea of extending the executive order prohibiting earned outside income to all political appontees Per your last note I asked Beth Nolan and Jane to prepare the language amending the EO and the accompanying OGE regs in this way I take it that Jane wants to make a last stab at changing your mind before she gives us the languageRecall that we are acceding to her yiew that a ban on all earned income is better than a ban on honoraria alone but she would prefer that we take neither action kagan 00-00-0000 WALLMAN,JohnMQuinn The stay motion in the civil fbi suit suit will be heard this friday Dec 6 by Judge Lamberth kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferDDudley If I remember correctly I talked to Jennifer and we went with the version we had as edited by Bruce kagan 00-00-0000 LuciaAwyman Pretty much anytime Thursday or Friday kagan 4-DEC-1996 yes kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg Looks great If you can still make a chnage Id say decline to meet with the Governors at thia time Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DianeIkemiyashiro I dont know what that is Is it a different issue kagan 00-00-0000 DianeIkemiyashiro If youve handled these letters in a particular way before I dont see any reason to change now kagan 00-00-0000 WALLMAN,QUINN_J Steve Kelman Marvin Krislov and I met yesterday to discuss 1 Governmental policy on reimbursement of costs incurred in antiunion activities and 2 Governmental policy on contracting with frequent labor law violators I thought it was a pretty good meeting Kelman seemed very receptive to preventing reimbursement of antiunion costs either under existing law or by issuing new regulations He was much less receptive but not entirely closedminded as to discouraging agencies from contracting at all with frequent labor law violators He wants to speak with his own staff and to some contracting officials about possible approaches on both of these issues He will report back to Marvin and Kathy since Ill be gone with options kagan 00-00-0000 WALLMAN By the way Jack told Kumiki that the WSJ forced his hand so at least that part of the story is very much public kagan 00-00-0000 SHlMABUKURLSHlMABUKUR_L Actually I dont think it is Please check with David Fein of the Counsels Office who handles contacts issues on Monday kagan 00-00-0000 WendySWhite Can you come kagan 00-00-0000 Can you come kagan 00-00-0000 JohnOSutton Can you come kagan 00-00-0000 DeborahFKramer Thats OK now but theres a possibility something else is going to come up for me that morning kagan 00-00-0000 CherylLSweitzerCherylLSweitzer Congratulations thats wonderful Though if I werent leaving myself I wouldnt think it was wonderful at all kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneIJohnson Thats awfully nice of you to say Its been a pleasure working with you too kagan 00-00-0000 HOGAN eeks not yet whats the timing on this kagan 00-00-0000 CRAFT_D I hope to be able to come but Im not absoluely sure kagan 00-00-0000 EllenTDavis Sorry sorry sorry How about Monday at 1000 And really I do apologize for not getting back to you earlier kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern Why is Kitty having a meeting on this subject kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews As I told you this morning Bruce and I would like to hold a regular meeting say every couple of weeks on racial issues including affirmative action We had started to plan our first such meeting and had talked about it to Jack Cheryl Maggie and Rahm As some appointments are made particularly to replace Deval we thought we would add some agency people And of course wed love participation from you or anyone else in the Chief of Staffs office We think a regular meeting of this kind would contribute to fashioning a coordinated and strong policy and message on racial matters Let me know what you think Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern Id like to have our meeting with Melanne first And would you let her know that I should be invited to any meeting on this subject Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JamesADorskind Mike Cohen will call your office to work out a response to the Winsten letter as the President requested Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg Here it is Different people gave me different kinds of things Ive tried to make them vaguely consistent but perhaps havent done enough Let me know if youd like me to do anything else Really feel free to ask kagan 00-00-0000 BrooksEscoville Thanks I talked with Steve Silverman today who also says great things about you Thanks for your patience in this process kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneIJohnson I left a message for Jim Dorskind that Mike Cohen will be working on it You should get in touch with him Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner I think so It looks great I dont have much to do to it at all Ill give you a call later today or tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner Great meeting no It gives us some things to talk about I think kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPHart looks fine kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg I see Apfel sent you talking points on immigrants Here are some on the MOE issue You should distribute them to whomever you think appropriate kagan 00-00-0000 GordonLi I believe there was some talk of this at one time but nothing more than talk and even the talk has now stopped If you have further questions feel free to call kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,BruceNReed,JohnPHart,LynAHogan yes thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner 1 Could you go to the meetings Carol mentioned in her email to us and report back if anything interesting happens Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews I think most of the matters weve been exchanging phone calls about kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner Youre way ahead of me Thats great On the dates we agree that there are dangers of seeming a johnnycornelately But especially if we want to link up the conference with real policy initiatives there are also dangers of going ahead before were really ready Weve been getting that message from a bunch of cabinet secretaries and I think Bruce wants at least to reopen this question Talk to you soon kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,JonathanPrince see attached kagan 00-00-0000 see attached kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner Sounds great Ill chair and Id love a ghostwriter kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg I hear you need this kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner This all seems exactly right THANKS kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall See attached which DOJ signed off on I clearly overreacted Sorry kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelWaldman I meant what I said today and what I told Liz last night It was grand and you should feel really proud kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,JeanineDSmartt,PaulineMAbernathy If theres anything that would be useful for me to have before our meeting tomorrow please let me know or just give it to me If not thats fine too kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt,NicoleRRabner,PaulineMAbernathy Can we all meet tomorrow at 430 in my office Any later time would also be fine with me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 KevinMOKeefe If its NEC they want then you want Kathy Wallman I know its hard to keep track of all these relocating lawyers kagan 00-00-0000 GeneBSperling,RahmIEmanuel,MichaelDMcCurry,SylviaMMathews Sylvia was right the Business Roundtable is coming out with a statement today endorsing our standards and testing proposals Apparently the Roundtable has never taken positions on higher ed issues kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMMcKiernan Here they are approved by Bruce kagan 00-00-0000 KevinMOKeefe Were happy to do whatever you think should be done I just thought that since they requested NEC it should go over there first But if you disgaree just let me know kagan 00-00-0000 LynAHogan,BruceNReed,PaulineMAbernathy,NicoleRRabner Ill do this right now kagan 00-00-0000 SaraMLatham yes thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson thanks looks good kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson heres the paragraph kagan 00-00-0000 RichardLHayes OK by meIm checking with steve warnath from my office as well kagan 00-00-0000 RichardLHayes ok kagan 00-00-0000 AnneEMcGuire Diana Fortuna is coordinating the voluntarism summit And sorry for not responding to your question earlier my email was out for a bit and then I just forgot kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabnerNicoleRRabner we usually have regular 400 meetings on education welfare etc how about 200 ojn one of those days kagan 00-00-0000 KatherineHubbard Hmmm DOT should have been notified They should call Cathy Mays 66515 kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews We put it in the 9th point which is called lifelong learning As you probably know the schooltowork program provides workbased learning to high school and college students integrating academic and vocational instruction We thought the program best fit in the lifelong learning section because of its job training aspectThe other initiative discussed in that section is the GI Bill Skill Grant kagan 00-00-0000 SarahSFreeman looks great kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman Here they finally are My email wasnt working all day If you want to make changes let me know Otherwise could you plug this in and send a new copy of the memo around to everyone kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley me for now kagan 00-00-0000 KrisMBalderston diana fortuna kagan 00-00-0000 KrisMBalderston nope kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley No sorry Leg affs probably would kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta,GeneBSperling,BruceNReed Attached is a qa on the minimum wagewelfare issue for use at the afl council meeting Its very much in line with the approach the President approved in reviewing Genes memoIm also getting the qa to the VP along with a background memo which you guys will get too I s there anyone else who should have it kagan 00-00-0000 DianeIkemiyashiro looks good kagan 00-00-0000 AnneEMcGuire,BruceNReed Very possibly I take it the report is coming from HHS Can we get an advance draft as soon as possible kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,JeanineDSmartt,NicoleRRabner Could we get together Tuesday at 300 to plannext steps Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,JeanineDSmartt,PaulineMAbernathy n O L E T SCHANGEI TTHEN HOWABOUT5 kagan 00-00-0000 BrooksEscoville same place 218 kagan 00-00-0000 BrooksEScoville can you come by again later today say around 6 or so kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall could you send me the two cases thanks kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba bruce is away and Im afraid i cant do anything that afternoon very sorry kagan 00-00-0000 JeanineDSmartt,PaulineMAbernathy,NicoleRRabner Heres the EO Please give to the Staff Sec Remind Phil that its already been circulated once and that we we have incorporated all proposed changes kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba Ignore my last message It looks like I will be able to come that afternoon Call me to set up a time kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg yes kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall what of the other points kagan 00-00-0000 RondaHJackson yes thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 CherylDMills Sorry to bug you but their settlement conference is on Monday so they need to know what they can say today As we discussed all they really want is to be able to tell the Judge that there is a meeting scheduled with DOJ to discuss the issue kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall,PeterGJacoby,PaulJWeinsteinJr Is Justice right We should be agressive here kagan 00-00-0000 SuzanneDale yes kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba sorry what date are we talking about again kagan 00-00-0000 JuneGTurner either lor steve warnath will attend thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey Cheryl tells me that youre talking with DOJ about the noknock case and that we agree with each other if not with DOJ on what DOJ ought to argue Let me know what happens and let me know if theres anything Bruce or I can do to help kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneIJohnson,JuneGTurner okill cancel another meeting kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba 400 kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason Here are qa from the DPC kagan 00-00-0000 SondraLSeba here it is kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing I have the memoI believe my premeet with Brisco and whoever she wants to bring is still on for Friday but I will check and let you and vicki know kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason Well get the campaign finance stuff figured out I think Richard Socarides has talking points for the dont ask dont tell And well provide a qa on abortion Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethMToohey you bet Im not having any conversations yet though I think the womens office is having a groups meeting tomorrow at 330 Im sending you a copy of the talking points kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner I am so sorry but Ive just found out i have to be a meeting at 5 can we change to any time between 10 and 3 I know I know this means sending out another messagethanks kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton Ill do one and get it to you ive already done some talking points kagan 00-00-0000 Ill do one and get it to you ive already done some talking points kagan 00-00-0000 RussellWHorwitz Ill do one and get it to you ive already done some talking points kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason yes thats great and we can certainly vet socarides talking points too kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson thanks Yes 35 is education kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing Not much They asked for different kinds of assistance for minority farmers including funding and publicprivate efforts USDA staff pledged to review the proposals and see if they could help USDA will keep us informed Theres nothing we need to do right now kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing Oh lord No I couldnt so I sent Steve Warnath whos the person on our staff who does civil rights issues Ill be gladto give a call to someone It sounds to me from Steves account of the meeting that a meeting would be pointless kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing ohthanks kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton still no i think kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing could you check the number for walter powell the one you gave me goes to a fax machine thanks kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner by the by what does it say on reasonable efforts kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton cant dosorry kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason all of last weeks thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AnneWHawley march 17 or 18 kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason Ill review 65557 Hope its not too late kagan 00-00-0000 MarciaLHale,StephanieSStreett,AnneWHawley,JohnPodesta There will be about 45 chief state school officers in Washington Theyre meeting at the Westin Washington City Center at 1400 M St kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason here it is kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing Could you get me a copy of the Leadership Conferences hate crimes report The copy you gave Bruce is missing every other page Id love to have it by this afternoon so I can go to Sylvias 500 meeting semiprepared Thanks very much kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing Could you get me a copy of the Leadership Conferences hate crimes report The copy you gave Bruce is missing every other page Id love to have it by this afternoon so I can go to Sylvias 500 meeting semiprepared Thanks very much kagan 00-00-0000 AngusSKing thanks thats great kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner Whats the news on the bonus front kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner can you come kagan 00-00-0000 LauraAGraham no problem kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson hell we ran the meeting i tried to email you to come but I somehow sent the message to the wrong person kagan 00-00-0000 JillMpizzuto,NicoleRRabner 100 is OK with me kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferDDudley whats the question I never got anything from you kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferDDudley OK with methanks kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran sorry what day kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner 300 kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason I want to look over the abortion stuff again I think I want to add a question Whens REALLY my last chance Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner youre great thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason all ok except abortion which is coming kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason,PhillipCaplan ANDMORESORR Y kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason I misspoke Here are updated health qas Sorry kagan 00-00-0000 I misspoke Here are updated health qas Sorry kagan 00-00-0000 1 kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner tomorrow at I kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton,JohnLHilley Ill do one on the Daschle bill that makes clear that it is consistent with the Presidents position and that the President could support it Ill send it to you kagan 00-00-0000 DouglasBSosnik FYI I told Chris that you and others had expressed some concern that the health care quality task force would get played as a campaign finance story His reply kagan 00-00-0000 FYI I told Chris that you and others had expressed some concern that the health care quality task force would get played as a campaign finance story His reply kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner shit do you anything about this kagan 00-00-0000 shit do you anything about this kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner sounds great kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Im glad too And thanks for the offer which you may regret Have a good weekend if I dont see you kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferDDudley yes Id love to kagan 00-00-0000 RondaHJackson yes thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan here it is kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethMToohey you bet kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferDDudley how many people kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferDDudley 65557 sorry not to have gotten back to you sooner kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran h e r ei ti s 1 ATTCREATIONTIMEDA TE000000000 kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMMcKiernan Maria Escheveste probably knows all about it from her days in the Labor Dept I believe this fell within her jurisdiction there Otherwise Ill bet someone in Genes shop tracks this kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern sure kagan 00-00-0000 AnneEMcGuire as you know Im coming to the chief of staff meeting tomorrow Should we be doing anything else kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv You bet The President made this point very strongly in his speech to the Maryland legislature but he cant repeat it too often kagan 00-00-0000 SallyKatzen,MUNNELL,TJGlauthier,KathleenMWallman,KathleenAMcGinty I think it would be helpful for us all to get together to discuss where we are and where were going on the kids eo Id like to call a meeting for Thursday at 930 to see if we can reach agreement on the notorious section 5thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,NicoleRRabner You recommend what Without benefit of your recommendation Id pick kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides see the attched kagan 00-00-0000 see the attched kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman,SallyKatzen,MUNNELL,TJGlauthier,KathleenAMcGinty At the request of a couple of you we are moving the meeting to thursday at 6 Last change sorry Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JuneGTurner Ill be there kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman Im not very good at this am I OEOB 218 kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg,PaulineMAbernathy,NicoleRRabner OK with me if you confine yourself to that First Ladys Office kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner friday at 3 thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta 1 Ive talked with Barney Frank and Elizabeth Birch about the federal employee benefits legislation Frank is introducing Hed like us to sign on at the beginning and is willing to wait a few weeks for us to decide whether we want to If were not interested at all hed like to know now so he can introduce the bill next week What kind of process do you think makes sense on this kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie,NicoleRRabner,PaulineMAbernathy,PatriciaFLewis Both the statement and the onepager look great to me though on the statement 1 I would put back some reference to governmentfunded research 2 fix the couple of typos in the fourth paragrah and 3 perhaps change the first sentence of the last paragraph slightly do ALL parents desperately want to do right by their children how about the abusers etc amongst them Do we also have qa kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshallcNwilliamPMarshall Where is the religionworkplace eo these days kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferDDudley I have another meeting at 530 OK kagan 00-00-0000 TJGlauthier,KathleenMWallman,MUNNELL,KathleenAMcGinty,SallyKatzen Just a reminder that the kids eo meeting is set for 600 pm in 218 Im inclined to say just us no staff kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman No problem He came and made a great contribution Ill fill you in tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett are you starting monday thats fantastic you cant imagine how glad Ill be to see you no need to worry for now have a good weekend kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshallcNWilliamPMarshall do the religious groups not care about the enforcement and again whats the fight over and finally whats the estimated time of arrival kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshallcNWilliamPMarshall what are the various positions when do you think it will all be done and ready to announce to the eagerly waiting world kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,PaulineMAbernathy five oclock kagan 00-00-0000 PeterGJacoby Awfully sorry I completely forgot to send this to you yesterday I doubt we need the meeting I requested given yesterdays seesion I just wanted to make sure that we were on the same page as to what we should be saying next week and I was glad to find out that we clearly are kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner attached kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey I just learned from Kathy that Ellen Seidman wont be able to do the products memo after all so it looks as if Ill be the author Im unfortunately leaving early today and going away for the weekend so unless you think theres some real urgency in which case you should definitely tell me Ill get you the memo early next week kagan 00-00-0000 JamesADorskind when you have a draft response to the cardinals letter please let me know My sense is that we should not get anything out prior to the votes in Congress kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie see attached kagan 00-00-0000 see attached kagan 00-00-0000 SuzanneDale actually I cant I have a meeting at 130 Im free the rest of the day kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley righti have to go too kagan 00-00-0000 SuzanneDale 9930 both days 1112 on wednesday 35 on thursday kagan 00-00-0000 CraigTSmith,MarciaLHale I spoke with Bruce about Giulianis request for a meeting Bruce suggested that the Democratic mayor be someone with a big immigrant population so that the focus would really be on immigrants Perhaps Miami Houston or Newark kagan 00-00-0000 CraigTSmith OK Just let me know kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley I dont knowi have a meeting at 300 and Im not sure how long that will run kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett ask her if they can make it 515 or 530 thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ask her if they can make it 515 or 530 thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ask her if they can make it 515 or 530 thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,ChristaRobinson,DennisKBurke,MichelleCrisci Interesting idea but Id check it very carefully with DOJ The last thing we need is for McVeighs lawyer to charge that were participating in creating a climate that will prevent kagan 00-00-0000 DennisKBurke,BruceNReed,MichelleCrisci,ChristaRobinson Interesting idea but Id check it very carefully with DOJ The last thing we need is for McVeighs lawyer to charge that were helping to create a climate that will prevent McVeigh from getting a fair trial kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett I take it this means Bruce wants me to go so put it on the schedule Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 I take it this means Bruce wants me to go so put it on the schedule Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MaryMorrison I take it this means Bruce wants me to go so put it on the schedule Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman 1 whens good to talk about this kids eo 2 would you like a divider between us or would you rather not kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett thanks kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie eli can i get a copy thanks kagan 00-00-0000 eli can i get a copy thanks kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman 1 I think 2 will work though I have a 1 and a 215 so I cant promise If not 5 2 Sounds right Lets see if we can come up with a nice one They the great they whoever they are at least owe us that much kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett,CynthiaARice,NicoleRRabner yours kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett I told kathy 2 would be fine kagan 00-00-0000 I told kathy 2 would be fine kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett keep the meeting at 1 eliz can do it without me kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis oops kagan 00-00-0000 JulieEMason see attched kagan 00-00-0000 PatriciaFLewis Kathy whalen is the person to give us answers thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett ok with me kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock here it is kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallmanKathleenMWallman sounds good let me check with ceq and set it up kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews Reno is totally into this conference and has talked about it to Bruce and me at our DPC meetings The person DOJ has been sending to our interagency meetings is a fount of ideas which we are making much use of kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please confirm for me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Could you call Chris Cerf or his secretary at I P6b6 Iand set up a time tomorrow when we could talk to each other by telephone for 10 or 15 minutes Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews Yes Ill make sure you get a copy of the memo kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett see attached kagan 00-00-0000 see attached kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman,TraceyEThornton,PeterGJacoby,BruceRLindsey I agree and Ill try to get the memo around within the next day or two kagan 00-00-0000 RondaHJackson yes thats fine But I have to be out by 9 so could you schedule me accordinglythanks kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton will do tomorrow thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett yippee kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton here it is but please make sure to check with me before this goes beyond John kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis Have you guys given this up kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis sounds great kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern check this again thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett you can put this on my schedule but I may not go especially if Diana can make it kagan 00-00-0000 you can put this on my schedule but I may not go especially if Diana can make it kagan 00-00-0000 you can put this on my schedule but I may not go especially if Diana can make it kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett pauline and nicole can do kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,PaulineMAbernathy sounds great By the way I think we probably should try to address concerns on parents Can we kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern oops kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamPMarshall A thousand apologies for the delay Here they are kagan 00-00-0000 WPCP 2BVTZ lxxxxXXx6XDQXHPL aserJet4Plus4MPlusHL4PLPLUWRSxD YX2PVbDZlxCourier New TTxxxXaXx6XDQXHP LaserJet 4 Plus4M PiusHL4PL PLUWRSxD kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,LauraEmmett Makes sense Laura could you get a copy from Julie Mason of the latest complete set of qa for the Presidents press conference and copy it for everyone so that they know what theyre making changes additions and subtractions off ofLet everyone know that thats why youre circulating it kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton,PeterGJacoby,JohnLHilley o o p s 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE0 00000000 kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,NicoleRRabner,JenniferLKlein sounds fine but does this mean melanneknows something i dont about the dod stuff kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton,PeterGJacoby,ohnLHilley Attached is a memo on products laibility I drafted for submission to the President Bruce Lindsey thinks its what we need to 1 remind the President of where we are and 2 get some indication from the President of how much if at all he wants to give on the issue I take it that NEC doesnt want the memo to go in apparently it wants to start some kind of kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallmanKathleenMWallman You bet Ill take it home with me tonight kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner,JenniferLKlein,PaulineMAbernathy Where is my paper kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett find 15 minutes today for this and tell him thanks kagan 00-00-0000 find 15 minutes today for this and tell him thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PaulineMAbernathy,DavidShipley exactly kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv Its one of the initiatives were announcing at tomorrows conference kagan 00-00-0000 JakeSiewert,KathleenMWallman looks ok to me kagan 00-00-0000 DavidShipley,NicoleRRabner,JenniferLKlein,PaulineMAbernathy,KatharineButton I told Janet Yellin that I would work hard to make sure that the First Lady mentioned the CEA white paper some time during the day Nothing more than a single sentence is necessary something to the effect that the cea is releasing a report today demonstrating the returns from investing in young children Is that OK with everyone Let me know if its a problem Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner absolutely thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelWaldman,RahmIEmanuel,DonaldABaer Because of Passover it will be hard to get you the three speech proposals you asked for sciencereligionelectoral reform by the end of Monday Well shoot for TuesdayWednesday instead unless you tell me that you really need them sooner kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneIJohnson looks fine kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie,BruceNReed Well have it a bit later in the day thanks kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie Its with Bruce now When did NEC give you theirs kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie oh well kagan 00-00-0000 PeterGJacoby same ones as before I think kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis Oh I dont know Child support is for the most part about helping mothers Maybe not the mothers of the families featured in Hallmark cards but mothers nonetheless and lots of them Youre the message guru and perhaps Bruce will disagree but I dont mind this in fact I think its kind of a good fit kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie but how many events do they each have kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,EliGAttie No really its my fault Bruce Im ashamed to say that Eli tells me we even were later than nec kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice what good can come of that he shouldnt go kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg cant imagine how congratulations kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince thanks and is my onepager anywhere in sight kagan 00-00-0000 FROM,EliGAttie style what about substance kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey Have you seen this Note the longer 18year statute of repose and that this provision seems to preempt in both directions we should check this In addition they fixed the negligent entrustment problem Its interesting that Rockefeller hasnt signed on yet Also have you seen the proposed sap on the volunteer liability bill Are you comfortable with it kagan 00-00-0000 Have you seen this Note the longer 18year statute of repose and that this provision seems to preempt in both directions we should check this In addition they fixed the negligent entrustment problem Its interesting that Rockefeller hasnt signed on yet Also have you seen the proposed sap on the volunteer liability bill Are you comfortable with it kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey I just looked at the bill and it seems to me notwithstanding the suggestion here that the statute of repose provision continues to be oneway kagan 00-00-0000 I just looked at the bill and it seems to me notwithstanding the suggestion here that the statute of repose provision continues to be oneway kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides whatever happened to it kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett id like to go to this kagan 00-00-0000 id like to go to this kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethABailey id like to go to this kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv Its not as central to our agenda and to tell the truth not all that substantive On the other hand its guaranteed to be popular and we dont have anything else ready right nowIf the reporters antsy to do this story now I guess Id go with it kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett could you print these for me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you print these for me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv on another matter we seem to have run into a bit of a problem on our education eo on further thought we decided it might interfere with our efforts to round up support in congress we will be looking for an alternative for you to pitch to usa today there doesnt seem to be anything imminent kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv jen klein should be call1ing you on this yes it is essentially our proposal we are senmding up a sap strongly supporting it tomorrow and yes we should get all the press we can for it kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides i dont think we have any slots sorry kagan 00-00-0000 RobertBJohnson Leanne is getting ready to send everything Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PALMIERI,BruceNReed,EmilyBromberg New information New states definitely endorsing our tests a kagan 00-00-0000 MaryEGlynn Ive decide to subject myself to this Let me know what I have to And give me lots of advice Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PeterGJacoby I used to talk with Victor Schwartz regularly He will offer to work towards a compromise bill ie a bill going part way in the direction of our veto message but will want some definite idea of what we can live with kagan 00-00-0000 PeterCErichsen Chris Jennings and Sarah Bianchi are our two health people Call Chris hell probably assign Sarah Let me know if you have any problems kagan 00-00-0000 TraceyEThornton I havent seen the leahy alternative Could you send it to me thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JamesADorskind still thinking kagan 00-00-0000 MarjorieTarmey do we have an event kagan 00-00-0000 MarjorieTarmey could you send me the request thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett make sure jen klein knows when this meeting is thanks kagan 00-00-0000 CherylMCarter yes sure what exactly am I asking kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv Erskine hasnt decided whether he wants to meet with the Texas delegation yet hes waiting for Hilleys and Sosnicks advice so right now all we can say is that weve received the request and its under consideration kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv probably a good idea were doing some last checks now kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg we are getting something to you on texas right now kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv there werent many stories anyway let me know if theres anything you think we can do kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv,WilliamRKincaid,MichaelCohen Since we didnt get the statement out yesterday wed like to issue it early next week when the full House passes the bill Does that sound OK kagan 00-00-0000 EllenSSeidman,BruceRLindsey,KathleenMWallman I suspect its a lot better than the alternative Ingrid can you send me a copy of the bill thanks kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv You bet Heres the statement kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley Your voicemail wont let me leave a message Call me kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Dear whomever kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv i just left it for sylvia kagan 00-00-0000 i just left it for sylvia kagan 00-00-0000 CherylMCarter they beat me to it im pretty sure but let me get back to you tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides,SylviaMMathews It seems the hearing was last week and everything went well Shays focused mostly on desert storm issues barely touching on informed consent No one else asked much of anything kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews well check it out kagan 00-00-0000 PeterGJacoby good thanks but i take it the president wants a memo on the subject kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print this out on white house stationery and give it to Michelle kagan 00-00-0000 PeterGJacoby,IngridMSchroeder,TraceyEThornton,KathleenMWallman,EllenSSeidman sounds right to me kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta,SylviaMMathews I forget who asked about whether we could announce our intent to nominate Satcher but the view from this office is that we definitely should not He has done a lot of writing some of it may be controversial we are not finished reviewing it yet and we are not prepared to start answering questions All in all we would be buying trouble kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince Could you write up a brief description of the housing bill and our objections to it for the weekly Thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 MaryEGlynn Is this still on I think we were going to set up a time and you were going to bring me some clips Thanks much kagan 00-00-0000 JoshuaSilverman I dont think we can say anything much yet Id be noncommittal but kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print these out for me some time today kagan 00-00-0000 please print these out for me some time today kagan 00-00-0000 CherylMCarter Yes Sorry it took so long to get back to you Do you want to set it up or should we kagan 00-00-0000 CherylMCarter yes and on mine too call laura emmett thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule this kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelDMcCurry,SylviaMMathews I think its almost certain he will be our nominee so theres no need to backpedal We just dont want to make things official before were fully prepared to answer questions about his writings and record kagan 00-00-0000 JamesTEdmonds terry could you get me the final version of the morgan state speech no rushthanks kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,LeanneAShimabukuro,BruceNReed,MichelleCrisci sounds right to me we should talk some more about what ultimately should go into the drug testing report but your description makes it clear that we should not issue it this week kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews we are getting answers on these questions ill let you know asap kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett lets set this up kagan 00-00-0000 lets set this up kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print these thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste I think its a good idea to talk though I suspect that our idea of strategy will not be their idea of strategy kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDrye,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,JonathanPrince,CathyRMays ditto Brucewhoever heard of an agency responding so quickly to anything kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 EliGAttie I had a good time althogh it felt very short And they did ask me a couple of great questions kagan 00-00-0000 JayKFootlik please give them straight to brian coyne of the SSAthanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett thats ok set up something on a day when im clear kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett PM kagan 00-00-0000 PM kagan 00-00-0000 KathleenMWallman,JenniferDDudley,EllenSSeidman absolutely agree kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett not kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelCohen,BarryJToiv Mike please do ask Ed to do this well put it in next weeks weekly report to the President kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides I looked over the materials you gave me They are now on their way back to you Call me and lets discuss Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ChristaRobinson,JonathanPrince,BruceNReed Could the two of you gettogather and do up a scheduling request for the President to announce HUDs Officer Next Door program I am sending both of you some materials on the program in case you dont have them And Jonathan could you make sure HUD knows that were trying to get this on the Presidents schedule and that they shouldnt go ahead themselves before hearing from us Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince,BruceNReed You may have noticed that the President got more press for his internet vchip remarks than for anything else he said down in west virginia Could you hook in with the VPs office Don Gips seems the right person to find out what were doing on this issue and whether we shouldcould be doing more thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince,BruceNReed Im sending you over a proposal from the CBC on establishing community computer centers Maxine Waters is very hot to do something about this and the President told the CBC last week that he thought it was a great idea Frank Raines whom Waters has talked with a couple of times about the issue is quite receptive so were likely to have OMBs active cooperation Wed like you to take the lead in getting people from OMB the VPs office and the relevant agencies together and making something come of this You might also involve the people in Leg Affs who keep most directly in touch with the CBC And keep Jose in the loop Let me know kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan Has the Shala memo on excess TANF funds gone in yet Let me know kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan,ToddStern Some time ago just before the VP went to California for the big AFL convention the President got a memo with discussion of a number of labor law issues incuding the comp time bill Im about 99 sure that the President returned this memo with a note on various comp time standards The subject came up at a meeting on comp time issues Friday I mentioned the Presidents note and Podesta asked me to try to find it I dont have it in my files so I thought Id go to the source can one of you helpThanks kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince OfcoursecontactW atersofficetoo kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste I just read your weekly What did the President say about the home office deduction I ask for reasons relating to our child care initiative kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince absolutely i pitched it hard to ann this morning for next weeks radio address I just think we should cover all bases Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince laura has promised me she sent it shes making another copy now thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince lawyers are kind of cautious arent they kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince I disagree with the first As to the second were not far away from an almost certainly adverse decision on CDA so we should definitely make plans now Also I think it seems kind of defensive rather than positive and affirmative to do it in that context so I think its fine that the President said what he said But you neednt argue this with Gips All kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste,SylviaMMathews,malley_rmalley_ralcdlngtwy We are in the process of getting some reactions from DOJ and State to an options memo getting a DOJ read on administrative solutions and doing some preliminary Hill discussions all in preparation for sending a decision memo to the President We hope to have everything completed and the decision memo ready for him by the end of next week though the Hill piece might push it back a few days kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern I think we probably will have a comment about how we recommend he make a major speech on some of the issues discussed in the memo etc Get back to me when youre ready to send Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett I gave it to you this weekend for filing under welfaretowork kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis,MariaEchaveste,JanetMurguia,KatharineButton,AnnFLewis,SondraLSeba,MarjorieTarmey,TraceyEThornton,JenniferLKlein,susanmliss,BarbaraDWoolley,CherylMCarter,RobynLeeds I agree kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan,ToddStern Can you put on a cover memo as follows Attached is a meorandum from Secry Shalala on state use of TANF monies DPC recommends that you use some of the facts and ideas in this memo in a major speech on welfare reform sometime this summer perhaps to a state legislature where you would talk about what kinds of state policies promote and what kinds retard real welfare reform kagan 00-00-0000 ToddSternCNToddStern I talked with Dan Turullo and he affirmed that we need do nothing more than take out the quotation remarks in the way I indicated on the copy I marked up I gave Dan every opportunity to demand more but he declined He said he understood that limitation of the ban to a particular technology etc was part of our policy I said it was he said then thats what we should say to President we just shouldnt constrain him kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan this too kagan 00-00-0000 this too kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings,CraigTSmith,palmieri_jpalmieri_jalcdlngtwy,SarahABianchi,NancyAMin,DianaFortuna,CherylMCarter,MariaEchaveste,JeanneLambrew,WilliamHWhiteJr ok by me too but i agree with chris on the possible need for higher level participation kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock,SylviaMMathews,BruceNReed One sentence changed insignificantly Sorry kagan 00-00-0000 PeterGJacoby McCurry has certainly reiterated our veto threat but Im not sure anyone else has Perhaps we should send up the same SAP with a note saying something like The recent amendments to the bill do not address the Presidents concerns and therefore do not change his position kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock,SylviaMMathews,BruceNReed Hope this is something along the lines of what you had in mind Let me know if you want changes made kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews The meeting was fine not great not bad It focused on fairly shortterm things in particular on whether the AMA policy can be reversed at its convention on June 23 We agreed to do a bit of thinking about whether we in truth HHS could contribute to that effort Chuck and I are meeting with the AG on Tuesday Donna offered to send over some doctors this week though we dont know who or when to give a medical briefing I think we all could use a briefing from the legislative people but I lean toward asking for this at one of the morning meetings rather than calling a separate meeting for the purpose kagan 00-00-0000 JuneGTurner yes thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan yes can we we makes sure to send it in tomorrow morning thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan phil this is the weekly in its raw form I will change order cut and edit but I will not add any new entries or sneak in any new recommendations Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan I do care Thank you kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Forwarded bYElena KaganOPDEOP on 081097 0224 PM kagan 00-00-0000 Forwarded bYElena KaganOPDEOP on 081097 0224 PM kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please copy kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Ask leanne to come kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,NicoleRRabner,BruceNReed,JanetMurguia,JenniferLKlein has anyone from here met with them kagan 00-00-0000 KrisMBalderston,MichaelCohen,AnnFLewis We are in a fight for our lives on the testing initiative with Congress likely to vote in early September to prohibit the use of federal funds for the test We cannot waste Sept 8 on a sweetnessandlight literacy event Were all going to have to work together to make this problem disappear Lets talk about how best to do so Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis great thanks ann kagan 00-00-0000 JamesADorskind I think thats right Sorry for not responding earlier kagan 00-00-0000 SarahSKnight chris will be back monday please show this to him kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste,SylviaMMathews,MichelleCrisci,JohnPodesta,ChristaRobinson,BruceNReed,JoseCerda The last time we spoke about this issue we planned for Erskine to host a meeting with Gil Gallegos The problem now is that Gallegos is furious with us and wont do this meeting He just won reelection by a very small margin after a campaign in which he took a lot of grief for his relationship with us I recommend getting a decision on this issue now without a meeting We can have a decision memo for Erskine or anyone else this week Agreed kagan 00-00-0000 KrisMBalderston no its on sorry you didnt get the other message kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan Food Safety As noted in the DPC weekly USDA is currently working on food safety legislation that would give the Secretary of Agriculture the authority to recall contaminated food and to assess civil penalties for noncompliance with safety standards USDA should have the legislation ready by next Tuesday Secretary Glickman and perhaps the Vice President will announce the new legislation next week They will also call for full funding of our food safety initiative in the Agriculture appropriations bill the current version of that bill is now about 4 million short of our request kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMPalmieri you bet kagan 00-00-0000 DemondTMartin not dpc sorry kagan 00-00-0000 FredDuval Yes I think thats fine kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett Laura could you get a hard copy of the attached on White House kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,EstelaMendoza could you take care of this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you take care of this thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock here it is kagan 00-00-0000 DemondTMartin heres the dpc entry kagan 00-00-0000 DemondTMartin That was from DPC not Agriculture Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MinyonMoore other than that theyre a great idea kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta Im going to be away next week so youre on your honor to 1 call seth waxman and 2 check in with erskine on how he wants to handle the secret service unionization issue kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett could you print all this out thanks kagan 00-00-0000 could you print all this out thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JonathanPrince yes kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews i missed your higher ed meeting i was working on tobacco all day ill try to catch up with you tomorrow afternoon kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett is this ok if not lets try to make it ok kagan 00-00-0000 is this ok if not lets try to make it ok kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides such as what do you think we should be thinking about kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides youre right of course kagan 00-00-0000 VictoriaRaddcNVictoriaRadd yes probably thurday though its in rahms court kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print for methanks kagan 00-00-0000 EmilyBromberg,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice im really trying veery hard to understand how mickey could think what he seems to think given our meeting last week kagan 00-00-0000 SeanPMaloney sorry I just got this Bruce is pretty much doing it himself and should get it down to you shortly kagan 00-00-0000 SeanPMaloney,ChristaRobinson,LauraEmmett here it is kagan 00-00-0000 MickeyIbarra,MariaEchaveste,JanetMurguia,MichaelCohen I believe Mike has added the word RepublicanPhil circulated a copy that was given to him before our meeting Am I right Mike kagan 00-00-0000 LuciaAWyman,RachelELevinson,ThomasLFreedman,JeroldRMande yes lets meet friday when rachel gets back Jerry or tom could you set this up Laura isnt here for the rest of the week thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DawnLSmalls 11 is best 130 is OK 230 is impossible Im answeing for Bruce also kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides,MinyonMoore,JulieAFernandes Richard I would think that we need to check with OMB about the proposals to fund a study and to improve statistical data Otherwise it looks fine kagan 00-00-0000 LisaJLevin sure anytime im not sure what executive memorandums weve sent lately but even if theres not one maybe people would be interested to find out where we are on tobacco kagan 00-00-0000 DawnLSmalls rahm kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv you bet kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste i will if you will kagan 00-00-0000 i will if you will kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,IngridMSchroeder ingrid did you send barry the dewine letter and cynthia could you send barry the mccain letter thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ingrid did you send barry the dewine letter and cynthia could you send barry the mccain letter thanks kagan 00-00-0000 VirginiaNRustique looks fine except that the meetings with conrad and fazio should be with their whole task forces kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv,VirginiaNRustique good idea we will kagan 00-00-0000 JeffreyAShesol great job my only suggestion to make clear that the bill is being introduced in the Senate today to try to give this event some semblance of news value thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg w illdo kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg It sounds as if we should be thanking you We really do appreciate your patience today kagan 00-00-0000 It sounds as if we should be thanking you We really do appreciate your patience today kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please put on sxhedule kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 please print kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferLKlein,MariaEchaveste jen we should talk about doing a weekly or biweekly meeting that addresses legislative strategy communications outreach and least important substance elena kagan 00-00-0000 jen we should talk about doing a weekly or biweekly meeting that addresses legislative strategy communications outreach and least important substance elena kagan 00-00-0000 KarenAPopp,JoseCerda so what do the doj lawyers think on the 5 vs 2 question kagan 00-00-0000 BarbaraDWoolley,AudreyTHaynes,JanetMurguia,SarahABianchi,WilliamHWhiteJr,JenniferLKlein I agree that this is a serious issue Before we have a meeting can someone Barbara Chris first find out from NancyAnn where HCFA currently is on this Also do we have any history of making conscience clause exemptions in the context of administrative action kagan 00-00-0000 NeeraTanden more than a billion grab me tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 WilliamHWhiteJr Looks good I would take out the 4th paragraph beginning Policy recommendations Its a kind of meaningless and much too long list The real or at least the comprehensible agenda is in the next paragraph if anything very important is missing from that paragraph you should just put it in Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 please print kagan 00-00-0000 SandraThurman,MariaEchaveste,RichardSocarides,SylviaMMathews fyi all of that is consistent with what we told the president in our memo kagan 00-00-0000 AndreaKane,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett,CynthiaARice why dont you put what youve done in memo form thanks kagan 00-00-0000 AudreyTHaynes,MaryLSmith,ThomasLFreedman We have a tobacco event set for kick butts day I cant remember whether thats april 2 or 4 If it is april 2 the vp will not want to do anything other than tobacco that day kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,LauraEmmett,CynthiaARice ok i hate this letter kagan 00-00-0000 AudreyTHaynes you are a star thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LeanneAShimabukuro,JulieAFernandes,MichaelDeich,StevenMMertens,PeterGJacoby I think increasing visibility is a pretty bad idea and would need to be convinced otherwise what do other people think kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv me or cynthia kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv I think you should leave it like that kagan 00-00-0000 ErskineBBowles,JasonSGoldberg Erskine kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg what do you think kagan 00-00-0000 JasonSGoldberg,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice here it is kagan 00-00-0000 MickeyIbarra thanks again kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,CathyRMays,CynthiaDailard I actually think Ed Knight would be fine I think we should agree to that kagan 00-00-0000 SylviaMMathews,MichelleCrisci,JohnPodesta fyi kagan 00-00-0000 fyi kagan 00-00-0000 PaulJWeinsteinJr,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett Thats fine Laura please do this each week kagan 00-00-0000 ErskineBBowles,BruceNReed,LawrenceJStein I expect youre going to get a call from Bob Rubin suggesting that you hold regular meetings on tobacco in which Larry Summers cah participate Rubins essential complaint seems to be that we rely on Treasury people for lots of work but dont bring them in to toplevel decisionmaking Of course Bruce does have weekly tobacco meetings to which Larry is invited and Treasury people are allover the various tobacco policy processes we also will begin to include their legislative people Linda Robertson or Marty Thomas in the daily phone calls we have with HHSs legislative officeWhat Rubin seems to feel is missing is the opportunity to sit around your table on questions of strategy as in the budget process I guess this would mean fairly regular meetings with you Bruce Larry Stein Larry Summers Donna plus one staff FrankJackJosh Bruce Lindsey Ron and perhaps someone from JusticeWe should talk about kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran Looks fine except right decision should be right direction in the second paragraph and industries bottom line should be industrys bottom line in the third paragraph kagan 00-00-0000 Looks fine except right decision should be right direction in the second paragraph and industries bottom line should be industrys bottom line in the third paragraph kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett,MarjorieTarmey Id rather wait for Mike kagan 00-00-0000 KarenAPOpp sitting on my desk sorry kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides I actually tried to spin it back the other way for our tobacco purposes the piece made it seem as if I had won far too much But thanks kagan 00-00-0000 FredDuVal yes sorry we didnt know about this meeting until late yesterday and I mentioned it at the 745 meeting But next time you get a prsonal call kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice I really dont think we should affirmatively support this Bruce what about your idea of leaving this to the VP kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 DianaFortuna,LauraEmmett,CynthiaARice I honestly dont remember Bruce see my note to you on this I recall you were involved at the last stages on this question Do you have a view kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran We continued our discussions today with Senators McCain and Hollings and believe we now have the outlines of an agreement over the next few days we will work with McCains and Hollings staff to incorporate it in a managers amendment As we described yesterday we have improved the bill in key areas strengthened lookback penalties a tougher ETS provision a higher liability cap and the elimination of other liability protections and a narrowed antitrust exemption Notwithstanding these improvements some Senators have objected to our anticipated agreement with McCain arguing that it will undermine their ability to pass strengthening amendments on the floor Erskine spoke to the Caucus today and explained that we wanted to strengthen the bill as much as we could before it gets to the floor given the fairly low probability of passing Democratic amendments there kagan 00-00-0000 MarthaFoley,ChristopherCJennings you bet chris will get you the memo as soon as hes done with it kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings,AnnFLewis,MarthaFoley Yes lets do it monday kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 AndrewJMayock its going to be awfully crowded in the ward room kagan 00-00-0000 PeterRundlet you know i dont remember saying we needed counsels signoff on anything if anything comes to me Ill get back to you till then just ignore kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,LauraEmmett does it kagan 00-00-0000 JocelynNeis,MariaEchaveste yes of course i hope tonight kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please set upcheck with cathy kagan 00-00-0000 JoseCerda,PeterGJacoby,BruceNReed,MichelleCrisci this hatchfeinsteintorricelli alliance is getting awfully bothersome kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print for some reason i cant kagan 00-00-0000 COMMENT AUTHOR Stephen I Holmquist OPERATOR Stephen I Holmquist COMMENT P R I N T E RFONT1 2P O I N TROMAN Draft 61998 kagan 00-00-0000 MorleyAWinograd,BroderickJohnson,JanetMurguia,BarbaraChow,KarenESkelton,LawrenceJStein,MariaEchaveste,TanyaEMartin,JonathanHSchnur Here it is at long last Because of the shortness of time I am giving this to staff secretary now for circulation If you want to suggest changes to the memo we should have a few hoursThanks kagan 00-00-0000 BroderickJohnson,MarjorieTarmey,MarthaFoley,JulieAFernandes,MinyonMoore,EdwardWCorreia,MariaEchaveste broderick is absolutely right no letters kagan 00-00-0000 KarenESkelton,MorleyAWinograd,LawrenceJStein,BroderickJohnson,BarbaraChow,JanetMurguia,MariaEchaveste,TanyaEMartin,JonathanHSchnur s o r r y 1 ATT CREATION TIMEDATE0 00000000 kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran nothing tOday but probably a standalone tobacco memo kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran nothing today kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett,JonathanAKaplan,JonathanOrszag 1 kagan 00-00-0000 JocelynNeis Jocelyn Elena is out all this week on vacation but can you please cc me on any further meeting notices Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 RFC822headers Received from conversionpmdfeopgov by PMDFEOPGOV PMDF V519 29131 kagan 00-00-0000 JuneShih,CynthiaARice we have a directive to announce on industry documents call cynthia for details Otherwise assuming the state ags havent announced a settlement do the standard rap bash congress for not acting urge them to do so etc If the state ags have agreed on a settlement we should congratulate them and welcome the settlement but then say that the job is only partly done and that congress must now do its share to reach our youth smoking goals kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett around all the time kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan gotchafor the first time ever kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett around all the time kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett for some reason my machine isnt letting me respond to this message could you let chris know that tuesday is fine thanks F o r w a r d e db yE l e n aK a g a n O P D E O Po n0 7 2 0 9 80 9 1 5 AM kagan 00-00-0000 for some reason my machine isnt letting me respond to this message could you let chris know that tuesday is fine thanks F o r w a r d e db yE l e n aK a g a n O P D E O Po n0 7 2 0 9 80 9 1 5 AM kagan 00-00-0000 MariaESoto sorry but John podesta has to come to this meeting in fact we should make it in his office to make sure hell be there Without john its worse than useless kagan 00-00-0000 MariaESoto you know it just occurred to me that bill marshall from the counsels office should be there too kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste thats what i had assumed agree kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett newest version kagan 00-00-0000 DanMarcus thats great well put you to use kagan 00-00-0000 AmyWeiss,HeatherMRiley,JenniferMPalmieri,BruceNReed,BeverlyJBarnes,LauraEmmett,BrendaMAnders sounds fine to me kagan 00-00-0000 PaulEBegala,DouglasBSosnik tomorrow for NBAC announcement kagan 00-00-0000 ChristopherCJennings,BruceRLindsey fyi you should be able to get the two prior messages from this one kagan 00-00-0000 fyi you should be able to get the two prior messages from this one kagan 00-00-0000 CynthiaARice,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,CathyRMays not me kagan 00-00-0000 CarolineRFredrickson,LauraEmmett Yes thats fine Laura will set up some time with you me Lisa and Cynthia Rice kagan 00-00-0000 EdwardWCorreia,JulieAFernandes,RobertNWeiner,MichaelCohen why dont we cochair kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett ok kagan 00-00-0000 BruceRLindsey and moreyou can also get Bruces message from this one kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 RogerSBallentine You bet It will be great having you on board Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 ,,BarryWhite of Rights kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 ,LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett pleae print kagan 00-00-0000 SeetheccSeetheSubject,,MelissaNBentonPhone3957887Fax3956148OfficeofManagementandBudget,BarryWhite of Rights kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 ,BarryWhite http17228l27308082ARMSservletigetEmaiIArchiveURLATHn1cp21Arrns405whoWho19981 kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett schedule please kagan 00-00-0000 schedule please kagan 00-00-0000 schedule please kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett youre printing all these out and collecting them right kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste,LauraEmmett sure kagan 00-00-0000 MelissaMMurray I cant imagine what this is about kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett keep this in case Bruce has changes kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett who is this kagan 00-00-0000 who is this kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis,ChristopherCJennings We took a major hit in the budget on this issue with a bipartisan coalition in Congress insisting that we delay our rule for a year Also since Livingston is one of the major opponents of our position I cant imagine were going to do better this year So it doesnt strike me that theres much to say Chris am I wrong kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett could you print this I cant get the numbers to line up kagan 00-00-0000 could you print this I cant get the numbers to line up kagan 00-00-0000 PaulDGlastris,MichaelWaldman As I told Paul this memo is now in the hands of John P and Maria E We hope to give it to the POTUS later today Please kep this closeand be aware that anything in it might change kagan 00-00-0000 AmyWeiss Imm not sure I sent you the right one here it is kagan 00-00-0000 AmyWeiss for release on sunday kagan 00-00-0000 LynnGCutler I do have plans with some friends from outoftown Thanks very much kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 MaryLSmith,BruceNReed,LauraEmmett not up to us ask omb kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 SarahABianchi please print kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 AmyWeiss no new stuff and no advance thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PaulDGlastris Paul this is our rewrite of the the great debate paragraphs Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 Paul this is our rewrite of the the great debate paragraphs Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PaulDGlastris I guess Id pass If he wants to he can add it kagan 00-00-0000 VirginiaNRustique you bet just leave everything for me kagan 00-00-0000 JuneShih so i am who else is on the list kagan 00-00-0000 DavidRGoodfriend we feel pretty strongly about some of these suggested changes id be grateful if you kept an eye out for whether theyre accepted kagan 00-00-0000 JuneShih whats that kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis you bet kagan 00-00-0000 JuneShih super whats this for kagan 00-00-0000 DavidRGoodfriend thanks kagan 00-00-0000 MarkAKitchens good lord why did you send that out kagan 00-00-0000 SeanPMaloney let me take a look this weekend kagan 00-00-0000 let me take a look this weekend kagan 00-00-0000 BeverlyJBarnes gosh thank you Beverly How are you kagan 00-00-0000 SeethedistributionlistatthebottomofthismessageccSubject,TracyPakulniewicz connie I dont know her last name from the Texas Health Association kagan 00-00-0000 connie I dont know her last name from the Texas Health Association kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 RobertJPellicciPhone3954871Fax3956148http17228127308082 The following attachments were included with this message kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelWaldman excellent kagan 00-00-0000 DanMarcus That is definitely not the way thurm portrayed it or at least not the way podesta portrayed how thurm portrayed it In any event theyd be wise to push for a true middle option kagan 00-00-0000 DanMarcus 1 Im not convinced Why dont you talk with Tim Westmoreland Hes at the Georgetown legislation program Devorah Adler will be able to give you a number kagan 00-00-0000 AnnFLewis Either the President or the VP should join Riley in announcing these new results If the VP does it we can put out a written statement from the President on the same day kagan 00-00-0000 KevinSMoran I think a premmeting just before would be OK if we can get John a decent memo on the issue Whos supposed to be writing kagan 00-00-0000 DanMarcus Why then is everyone so insistent about the need for section 1983 actions in medicaid kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 LynnGCutler I sent the message on to Chrishes the person in the best position to know what we canshould do in this area It seems to me like a good idea kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv fyi Elena is out today tomorrow Laura kagan 00-00-0000 CharlesMBrain Lets give this one to Jose Cerda on the ground that the closest thing to fire fighters is police officers kagan 00-00-0000 RobertBJohnson,LauraEmmett Of course Did you show frustration Was that after I left kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please arrange something kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 ElenaKagan please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner thanks kagan 00-00-0000 thanks kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMPalmieri only johnson doj doesnt have much to do with this I think mark can go ahead kagan 00-00-0000 only johnson doj doesnt have much to do with this I think mark can go ahead kagan 00-00-0000 only johnson doj doesnt have much to do with this I think mark can go ahead kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,MaryLSmith The summary language looks pretty good to me The languagewithin the report is worse it seems as if all we talk about is the reasons for NOT coordinating eg the links between food safety issues and nonfood safety issues Cant we take some of this tuff out kagan 00-00-0000 ThomasLFreedman,LauraEmmett,BruceNReed,MaryLSmith well lets try to do that kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMPalmieri sorry bruce and I were both at the NGa meeting and our staff is pretty wll trained not to send stuff in until one of us has looked at it It wont happen again kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste,edleyedleylawharvardeduinet,BruceNReed,ClaraJShin,CharlesFRuff,RobertBJohnson I believe Jose and Laura are in the midst of putting together a meeting for sometime this week kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste We will try to do it tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMPalmieri onedaydown kagan 00-00-0000 PhillipCaplan does it matter I give up kagan 00-00-0000 KarenTramontano you bet thanks kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner I didnt put the child care item in todays weekly Please resubmit it kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 ,,BarbaraChow Programs for Children and Youth Who Are Neglected or Delinquent Part of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act Reauthorization Title I Part D of the ESEA of 1965 kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 FROM, Unabletoconvert ARMSEXT ATTACHD76MAIL442635660036 to ASCII kagan 00-00-0000 MichaelWaldman I dont get it Whats this kagan 00-00-0000 I dont get it Whats this kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett I am out Its up to Bruce kagan 00-00-0000 I am out Its up to Bruce kagan 00-00-0000 CathyRMays I am out Its up to Bruce kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern great kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern what can I bring kagan 00-00-0000 what can I bring kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner OK lets do that child care entry NEXT week Sorry Please resubmit it kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 KatePDonovan,CharlesKonigsberg,BarbaraChow,JonathanHSchnur,SandraYamin,BroderickJohnson,TanyaEMartin DPC would like to cut the last paragraph Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 POLICY,LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 DanMarcus,CharlesFRuff You bet As you know weve traded calls a few times on this Either a phone call or a meeting is fine kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMLuray Thank YOU kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 BroderickJohnson,BruceNReed Youre certainly right as to the message Do we need to get veto language out there right away or doesnt it matter kagan 00-00-0000 StacieSpector sounds great kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethRNewman,JoseCerda,ChristopherCJennings Tobacco police brutality and patients are all the same tobacco and patients from yesterday police brutality from last week Were working on Medicare now kagan 00-00-0000 EdwardWCorreia where are the agencies these days kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv looks good kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv yours looks great were sending down a version with one additional changethanks kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethRNewman It would be really helpful if we could one list as early in the morning as possible Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethRNewman,CynthiaARice I dont think Joe will get questions but if he does he should just say thatweve never looked into this question but will review any lawsuit making this claim against the tobacco companies kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethRNewman no problem Im well aware that we often miss your deadlines even though youve gotten your list to us promptly at 900 kagan 00-00-0000 DanMarcus You dont happen to have them do you kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethRNewman no new q a on ed flex or medicare new tobacco qa will be down in a moment kagan 00-00-0000 EdwardWCorreia thanks chuck should set something up whenever he wants kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethRNewman,JEricGould I doubt Joe will get questions but if he does he should just say that weve never explored this issue but will review any future lawsuit that makes this claim against the companies kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethRNewman I dont think theres any way the President will get asked about yesterdays verdict He may well get asked about losing the recoupment vote in the Senate 7129 and well get you revised qa reflecting that vote Also well have revised qa on patients kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 JanetMurguia Your brother If so congratulations kagan 00-00-0000 Your brother If so congratulations kagan 00-00-0000 RobertBJohnson Ben we would never have a meeting without you Also I think Bruce is going to be calling you this morning on this subject kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv we should have kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern didnt we get it toyou kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 NicoleRRabner sounds good have laura set it up kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern the wjw piece was written specifically for the book which has a 1997 copyright kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 HumaMAbedin please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 ToddStern OK OK OK Sorry kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett schedule kagan 00-00-0000 schedule kagan 00-00-0000 JohnPodesta schedule kagan 00-00-0000 JenniferMLuray Thats great thanks much I am confident that both our reputations have survived kagan 8-APR-1999 Thank you I know I liked the one I got kagan 00-00-0000 SaraWilson,EricSAngel,MarkChildress Attached is 1 my Senate form and 2 a slightly revised version of my ABA forms with typos etc corrected Let me know what you want to me changeThanks kagan 00-00-0000 MichellePeterson Now theres a question Chris and Jose are fighting for the lead role Until they decide I guess its me kagan 00-00-0000 MariaEchaveste sorry youre absolutely right well have the bigger meeting tomorrow kagan 00-00-0000 LorettaMUcelli Our new idea is child care We can claim a real victory in the budget resolution and Dems on the Hill would like us to highlight it I think we should be able to get some press off this topic Lets talk tomorrow morning kagan 00-00-0000 Eric sorry that was an aborted page I left a message on your voicemail Please give me a call this afternoon or weekend if you need me or if I can do anytbing to speed this process along You should NOT hesitate to tell me to do something over the weekend Have a good weekend yourself Elena kagan 00-00-0000 SaraWilson dont do that yet I just made some more changes Let me put in your suggestion and send another kagan 00-00-0000 BruceNReed,LauraEmmett lauraplease put this on my schedule kagan 00-00-0000 lauraplease put this on my schedule kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 please schedule kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv,RichardSocarides,JeffreyAShesol do you have this on your email if 0 could you forward it to jeff kagan 00-00-0000 do you have this on your email if 0 could you forward it to jeff kagan 00-00-0000 LauraEmmett please print kagan 00-00-0000 StephanieSStreett This sounds like the University of Chicago kagan 00-00-0000 DouglasBSosnik This sounds like the University of Chicago kagan 00-00-0000 BarryJToiv yes you have this got this wrong we got two votes kagan 00-00-0000 RichardSocarides Nope Leaving this Friday Are you in Paris kagan 00-00-0000 PeterRundlet I have to go pick up my car from the shop so will be hard to reach for the next few hours If you have a problem and you cant get me please make sure to get hold of Bruce Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 PeterRundlet do you mean that correctly will be taken out of both sentences in that paragraph kagan 00-00-0000 MarkJMazur,DianaFortuna,BruceNReed,CynthiaARice Yes but only if the understanding is that we will seek a legislative fix kagan 00-00-0000 MarkJMazur I think I have to talk with Bruce about this I believe he would feel strongly the other way given 1 where we were in our 94 bill and 2 where the governors are now But let me check kagan 00-00-0000 SandersDKorenman Fantastic And thanks Ill look at it tonight kagan 00-00-0000 SandersDKorenman sorry not to get back to you until now this is terrific lets talk on monday kagan 00-00-0000 SandersDKorenman 300 meeting kagan 00-00-0000 SandersDKorenman nope that was when my meeting with judy was ill call you kagan 31-JUL-1995 GeneBSperling James tells me he asked an OLC lawyer to work with you on your executive order If thats more than enough legal advice for you thats fine with me On the other hand if you want some more that would be great with me too Just let me know what youre doing when youre meeting and what I should be reading I guess more generally Id love for you to keep me in mind and get me involved in some interesting things Whether its this or something else or this and something else Ill leave to you Talk to you soon kagan 4-AUG-1995 GeneBSperling FYI This executive order needs a fair bit of work The biggest problem is that there isnt right now a legally sufficient basis for the order stated in the introductory section That section talks a lot about how the order promotes health and safety and improves the environment all of which is very nice but legally irrelevant or at least incomplete Theres very little discussion of what there should be discussion of how the order relates whether through health and safety effects or otherwise to the procurement process and the efficiency of governmental contracting In addition the enforcement mechanisms in the order raise some questions But not to worry were on the case kagan 7-AUG-1995 GeneBSperling 1 I referred an AP reporterRon Fornier to you whom Ab had referred to me I decided that I didnt know enough about where this exec order was going to answer any questions about it Of course you might not know enough either but thats now your problem kagan 00-00-0000 CRAFT_D 3313 Connecticut Ave Apt 615 Wash DC 20008 3321763 Pager4159 kagan 00-00-0000 MAYS_C As of today kagan 00-00-0000 COHEN_M On that scheduling request would it make sense to use either of those two events as a forum for announcing a commitment by university presidents to provide summer sessions for 6th grade teachers see p 4 of the education retreat memo kagan 00-00-0000 REGAS_D One of these days soon Im going to get around to meeting with everyone In general you should presume that I want to be kept generally up to speed on everything Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 DRYE_E Yes thats fine Thanks kagan 00-00-0000 REED_B Katie took me aside at the 815 on a matter concerning Diane Regas We should talk briefly about this when you have time kagan 00-00-0000 REED_B The SSI issue didnt come up at 730 Mary Ellen Glynn asked me about it at 815 She agrees that we shouldnt do it next week and would prefer that we not do it this week either She said she would talk to Mike about it kagan 00-00-0000 The following attachments were included with this message kagan 00-00-0000 ElizabethDryeElizabethDryeeop Message creation Date was at 28APR1997 081900